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Bill: Family Planning
Details
Submitted by[?]: Enlightened Socialist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2059
Description[?]:
| The Enlightened Socialist Party believes that, due to increasing teenage pregnancies and the numbers of unwanted children, that contraception should be available at a heavy discount at family planning centres and that advice should be offered for anyone considering having children. The tiny cost of the subsidy would be outmatched by the savings made by not having to look after unwanted children and dealing medically with teen pregnancies. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on subsidising contraception.
Old value:: The government does not supply free or discounted contraceptives.
Current: The government offers free contraceptives in pharmacies and public toilets.
Proposed: The government subsidises a considerable discount for contraceptives.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:34:59, May 12, 2005 CET | From |  Liberty Party of Saridan | To | Debating the Family Planning |
| Message | We support this legislation. |
| Date | 00:36:53, May 13, 2005 CET | From | LCS Christian Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Family Planning |
| Message | What increasing numbers of teenage pregnancies? We think this is propoganda to support a fundamentally flawed proposal. Because some religious groups are against many methods of contraception, we cannot, in good faith, spend their tax dollars on these practices. |
| Date | 00:43:50, May 13, 2005 CET | From | To | Debating the Family Planning |
| Message | We support this bill. |
| Date | 22:28:07, May 13, 2005 CET | From | LCS Liberal Republican Union | To | Debating the Family Planning |
| Message | The government must not promote deresponsabilisation. We are against. |
| Date | 01:39:57, May 14, 2005 CET | From | LCS Christian Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Family Planning |
| Message | We wonder why the government has to move in and flood a potential market. The people would be better off if the government provided food, medicine, and all other commodities for free. But the bottom line is that this is NOT the job of good government. Such a bill establishes dangerous precedent. -Patrick Fallon, MP (Moshiran) |
| Date | 01:49:19, May 14, 2005 CET | From | Enlightened Socialist Party | To | Debating the Family Planning |
| Message | We think that that is exactly the job of a good government - to provide for the people life, liberty, and what they need to achieve both of those aims. Any luxury is exclusively the realm of private, however. |
| Date | 03:11:53, May 14, 2005 CET | From | LCS Christian Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Family Planning |
| Message | Free contraceptives are not necessary if individuals are responsible and show sexual restraint. Liberty means living with the consequences, and not expecting the government to tax others to bail you out of your problems. We cast a vehement NO. |
| Date | 00:44:02, May 16, 2005 CET | From | United Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Family Planning |
| Message | We believe the Govt supplying Contraception would be immoral. |
| Date | 16:30:07, May 17, 2005 CET | From | Enlightened Socialist Party | To | Debating the Family Planning |
| Message | Very liberal, you are. |
| Date | 11:05:36, May 24, 2005 CET | From | Enlightened Socialist Party | To | Debating the Family Planning |
| Message | Any further debate, or shall it be brought to the vote or removed? |
| Date | 18:00:08, May 24, 2005 CET | From | Liberty Party of Saridan | To | Debating the Family Planning |
| Message | We think a vote should occur. |
| Date | 13:58:25, May 28, 2005 CET | From | To | Debating the Family Planning |
| Message | Don't most insurance policies cover contraceptives, and if someone cannot afford them they can surly get them through our Medicaid Program. (if we have one). Secondly this is not a debate about morals, it is a debate on wheather the government should give free medicine. Though we support contraceptives and believe all people should have access to them, this bill may lead us down a slippery slope and cause us to lead to more and more state provided medicine, which does not work. We cannot suppor this bill for that reason, not because we are morally oposed to it, but because we are worried of the precident it might make. |
| Date | 19:55:56, May 28, 2005 CET | From | Enlightened Socialist Party | To | Debating the Family Planning |
| Message | Private healthcare is very ineffective. Why treat someone properly and keep them healthy when you can get more money from them by offering non-cures and charging them for even more? It is for this reason a National Health service must be set up. Why should someone lying dying from gunshot wounds due to our rampant gun-crime (thanks to your belief that people have the right to kill each other) have to have their credit card checked before they would be treated? What if you get your throat shot out? Can't read off the details for the chain-smoking paramedics then, can you? |
| Date | 21:05:42, May 28, 2005 CET | From | To | Debating the Family Planning |
| Message | If you think it is that bad then offer a bill for it. Regulation -- not government ownership is the best way for a medical system. (look at USA) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 94 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 44 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 45 |
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