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Bill: Economic Reform Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partidul Poporului Noului Endralon
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3621
Description[?]:
| Mr. Speaker, We know that the communists and socialists dislike our views regarding the public sector. But we ask them to consider the penalty and idiocy of eliminating the private sector. Leave the free market alone. - Child labour: Child labour isnt bad, its only bad when its done to sustain the family and destroys the oppertunity for the child to learn and develope him or herself. It shouldnt be illegal for childeren of the age of 12 to get a sidejob next to his educational studies. - Investments by foreign entities: It's nonesens that companies arent alowed to invest into our economy. Investments and shares are the very means of paying for the companies activities. If a foreign company buys up one of our companies it might not be that bad, the government should only prevent monopolies, nothing more. - Industry: The government shouldnt own certained industries! The government is incompetent in ruling or even running corporations. The private sector is far more capable of doing this, and there is no valid arguement for government intervention. - Wages: In an economy where workers are assets that are paid according to their value and the work they provide the government shouldnt set a wage that lets woman stay home, we arent religious conservatives! We must encourage both parents to work and let the free market do its job. - Monopolies: Monopolies are always bad because due to the lack of competition the prices arent adjusted and are far too high. - Phone lines: Free? No, they should be subsidied for the poorest but those who can pay for it should pay for it. The government isnt a care taker, its a provider of safety and equal oppertunities. Back off government. - Stock exchanges: Why regulate them? They cant do harm. Its an alternative investment method. Dont regulate it, its useless socialism. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning child labour.
Old value:: Child labour is forbidden.
Current: Child labour is forbidden.
Proposed: Child labour is allowed, but with additional regulations to those of adult labourers.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change
The government's policy regarding foreign investments.
Old value:: Foreign investors may invest in national companies, but may not get a majority share.
Current: Foreign investors may invest in national companies, but may not get a majority share.
Proposed: Foreign investors may freely invest in national companies.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: Certain industries are owned by the state, all others are under private ownership.
Current: Certain industries are owned by the state, all others are under private ownership.
Proposed: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a full time worker on it can support a family of four without falling under the poverty line.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Policy on monopolies (this general law is superceded by other laws relating to specific parts of the economy).
Old value:: Monopolies are only forbidden in specific sectors of the economy.
Current: Monopolies are forbidden, and are actively broken up.
Proposed: Monopolies are forbidden, and are actively broken up.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning phone services.
Old value:: Telephone lines are provided free of charge to all citizens.
Current: The state regulates the rates providers can charge for phone service.
Proposed: The state subsidizes the phone service of low income families, and regulates the rates providers can charge for phone service.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The government's position towards the stock exchange(s).
Old value:: Stock exchanges are allowed but are regulated.
Current: Stock exchanges are allowed but are regulated.
Proposed: Stock exchanges are allowed and are unregulated.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:42:42, February 11, 2014 CET | From | Kizenian Liberals for a Republic | To | Debating the Economic Reform Bill |
| Message | "- Child labour: Child labour isnt bad, its only bad when its done to sustain the family and destroys the oppertunity for the child to learn and develope him or herself. It shouldnt be illegal for childeren of the age of 12 to get a sidejob next to his educational studies." -----> Child labourers are exploited by companies, regardless if they are owned by the state or by the private sector. As they do not fall under the laws for adult labour, they do not receive a minimum wage, and managers can put them to do a huge amount of work for a very low pay. Child labour is to be forbidden, and from our point of view, this is absolutely non-negiotable. " - Investments by foreign entities: It's nonesens that companies arent alowed to invest into our economy. Investments and shares are the very means of paying for the companies activities. If a foreign company buys up one of our companies it might not be that bad, the government should only prevent monopolies, nothing more." -----> We think that our nation, our people, are perfectly capable of handling the companies themselves, and do not need foreign interference. We now, again, after years of left-wing rule, have one of the biggest, if not the biggest, GDP in the world. And this was entirely the work of our people! "- Industry: The government shouldnt own certained industries! The government is incompetent in ruling or even running corporations. The private sector is far more capable of doing this, and there is no valid arguement for government intervention." -----> Your mere argument is invalid. There are at least a thousand examples of very performant state-owned companies that have done awful while under the control of the private sector. If the government is not corrupt, which is not the case in the Confederation, the state is great at running companies. " - Wages: In an economy where workers are assets that are paid according to their value and the work they provide the government shouldnt set a wage that lets woman stay home, we arent religious conservatives! We must encourage both parents to work and let the free market do its job." -----> The KLS have no position on this issue, and we wouldn't mind changing the minimum wage; "- Monopolies: Monopolies are always bad because due to the lack of competition the prices arent adjusted and are far too high." -----> This is absolutely amusing because the NEPP has completely allowed monopolies while they were in office. Quite hypocritical, one could say. "- Phone lines: Free? No, they should be subsidied for the poorest but those who can pay for it should pay for it. The government isnt a care taker, its a provider of safety and equal oppertunities. Back off government." -----> Back off government? Typical conservative rhetoric. The technology has advanced so much that the cost for phone lines is low enough for the government to afford providing free phones for everyone. "- Stock exchanges: Why regulate them? They cant do harm. Its an alternative investment method. Dont regulate it, its useless socialism." -----> They can't do harm? Ha ha! Where in the world do you live? An utopian libertarian society? Unregulated stock exchanges are historically proven to have caused huge recessions and depressions. We must regulate them in order to avoid getting screwed up by those parasite stock brokers. |
| Date | 20:26:38, February 11, 2014 CET | From | Kuzaki Communist Party (KCP) | To | Debating the Economic Reform Bill |
| Message | 1. It depends what you mean by child. 4-9 NO 10-16 that is heavily regulated OK M 2. Not saying we aren't capable, just want a fair chance for everyone, even foreigners Y 3. I agree with the old values, with maybe a bit of aid here and there for struggling ones. N 4. The minimum wage should NOT be lowered to that standard. N 5. I fully support monopolies and capitalism N 6. Yeah, I agree with KLS here, we already have practically free phone lines. N 7. Stock Exchanges: Yes, Unregulated: No N Yes No Maybe |
| Date | 22:53:13, February 12, 2014 CET | From | Partidul Poporului Noului Endralon | To | Debating the Economic Reform Bill |
| Message | The Kizenian Liberal Socialists are wrong. We are not saying that child labour should be enforced in a way that it is exploiting people. The regulations we are proposing for it are even bigger than those on the adult population. Kids from 12 to 21 need working expierence and your robbing it away from them. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 350 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 100 |
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