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Bill: Verbot auf höhnische Gotteslästerung, 3627
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 3628
Description[?]:
| (OOC: This is mainly a way to get my religious position back.) A BILL to forbid the act of blasphemy, being the intentional insult or injury of the religious sentiment of other people. BE IT ENACTED by Her Imperial and Most Illustrous Luthoran Majesty, Kaiserin Josephine of Hulstria, and His Imperial and Heavenly Majesty the Hosyu Emperor, Go-Kurosawa of Gao-Soto, by and with the advice and consent of the Imperial Diet of Hulstria and Gao-Soto, at Kien assembled, having observed the Constitutional rights of the Länderrat, and by the authority of the same, as follows- ERLASSEN vom Ihrer Kaiserliche und Erlauchte Luthoranische Majestät, Kaiserin Josephine von Hulsterreich, und Seiner Kaiserliche und Himmlische Majestät, Hosyu-Mikado Go-Kurosawa von Gao-Soto, vom und mit Rat und Zustimmung des Reichstages Hulsterreichs und Gao-Sotos, in Kien versammelt, mit Beobachtung der Verfassungsmäßige Rechten des Länderrates, und auf Autorität des gleichen, wie folgt- 1) Minor offence of scornful blasphemy (1) Anyone who shall publicly, by speech, writing or image, express himself in such a way as is insulting and abusive to religious sentiments, shall commit the offence of scornful blasphemy. (2) The offence of scornful blasphemy shall be punishable by at the highest a fine of the first category. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change State penalties for blasphemy
Old value:: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Current: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Proposed: Public blasphemy is considered a minor offense.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:40:13, February 24, 2014 CET | From |  Hosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund | To | Debating the Verbot auf höhnische Gotteslästerung, 3627 |
| Message | Herr Präsident, Religious beliefs are not simply opinions - they are deep-seated, sacred beliefs that go to the heart of a person's being. We wish to protect believers from those who would insensitively insult them by design, as we would also stand firm for the ban against hate speech to maintained. Let me make one thing clear: I, too, think people should be able to disagree with religion, even joke about it or mock it. But up to a certain point, when it's clear it's not designed to insult the feelings of religious people - not doing so is a matter of common decency and we should recognise that in our laws. shr. ehrw. Franz Weile, MdR (HDV - Budenlar) Klubobmann |
| Date | 01:39:36, February 25, 2014 CET | From | Solidarität | To | Debating the Verbot auf höhnische Gotteslästerung, 3627 |
| Message | Herr Präsident, As a Hosian myself, I share Herr Weile's abhorrence for discrimination and insults on the basis of religion. Nevertheless, freedom of speech is essential to the working of democracy, and is intrinsic to the social and political culture of the Crownlands. We are therefore of the view that the problems Herr Weile describes should be addressed in alternative ways which do not include the introduction of any kind of blasphemy law. Max Siegel MdR Chairman of Solidarity |
| Date | 09:33:12, February 25, 2014 CET | From | Nationales Bürgerforum (NBF) | To | Debating the Verbot auf höhnische Gotteslästerung, 3627 |
| Message | Herr Präsident, the enforcement of decency is not a proper subject for our laws. If people are offensive, we are right to be repulsed by their behaviour, but if they insist on being unpleasant and uncivil individuals, it is not our right or prerogative to ban them from doing so. This bill is an assault on free speech and an assault on civil rights, and for the absurd reason that some people might have their feelings hurt. Anton Mutschler MdR NBF Fraktionsvorsitzende |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 105 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 538 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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