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Bill: Military Bill - Proposal to the Presidium
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Liberal Association
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3636
Description[?]:
| We support a stronger military, in order to defend ourselves from possible invaders. Please consider these proposals. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the use of land mines by the army.
Old value:: The use of land mines is prohibited.
Current: The use of land mines is prohibited.
Proposed: The Government leaves this to the army to decide upon.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term in the military, but can shorten their term/forego it completely by paying a certain amount of money.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:00:31, March 14, 2014 CET | From |  Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Military Bill - Proposal to the Presidium |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This allows the snobs in the upper class to pay their way out of experiencing the great feeling of service and community. It teaches them to pay their way out of life, and that being wealthy allows them to be given special treatment. -- Rolf Orman, Chairman of the NRG, Vice President of Lodamun |
| Date | 17:13:53, March 14, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Military Bill - Proposal to the Presidium |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, we oppose to the second article. We refuse to even think about the first one... Anton Spinoy Minister of Defence |
| Date | 22:08:31, March 14, 2014 CET | From | Social Anarchist Party | To | Debating the Military Bill - Proposal to the Presidium |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Both articles are ludicrous and we refuse to support this madness. Not only will the upper class feel they can pay their way through life- it will also lower their moral and loyalty to the country. Evard Brown, Minister of Internal Affairs |
| Date | 19:07:20, March 15, 2014 CET | From | Allied Humanists | To | Debating the Military Bill - Proposal to the Presidium |
| Message | We opt to support the second article of this bill rather than the first as we agree with our great dictators of the NRG (to some extent). Arceus Plato Justice Correspondent |
| Date | 23:59:27, March 15, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Military Bill - Proposal to the Presidium |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, It is sad that the Allied Humanists would want to leave it up to the military to have the free will to put landmines anywhere. This is dangerous. Wanting to restrict the military for the sake of the people is far from being a party of dictators. -- Motya Bogomolov, NRG Spokesman on Defence |
| Date | 16:37:38, March 16, 2014 CET | From | Allied Humanists | To | Debating the Military Bill - Proposal to the Presidium |
| Message | I do believe this matter was brought up some time ago where we declared that such an allowance would come with restrictions as to the areas in which they can be used. (Revised Military Act 3610) Stella Steel Defence Correspondent |
| Date | 17:47:50, March 16, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Military Bill - Proposal to the Presidium |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, A proposal to make change the law to state "The use of land mines is allowed but restricted" is completely different from the law being proposed in this bill, which allows the military to use landmines at their own free will. -- Motya Bogomolov, NRG Spokesman on Defence |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 200 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 399 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Information about the population of each country can be found on the Population Information thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8663 |
| Random quote: "We live in a world in which politics has replaced philosophy." - Martin L. Gross |