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Bill: Army Size of Gaduridos
Details
Submitted by[?]: Workers Revolutionary League - Gaduridos
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 3678
Description[?]:
| Federal Land Army of Gaduridos : 600,000 men Federal Navy of Gaduridos : 1,000 boats with the ability to bear 600 men on each Air Force of Gaduridos : 5,000 aircrafts with 10 men in each Reserve Troops of Gaduridos : 100,000 men External Espionage Service of Gaduridos : 5,000 men Internal Espionage Service of Gaduridos : 50,000 men |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:30:13, June 07, 2014 CET | From | Workers Revolutionary League - Gaduridos | To | Debating the Army Size of Gaduridos |
| Message | Do you agree with this? |
| Date | 04:30:13, June 08, 2014 CET | From | Progressive Conservative Party | To | Debating the Army Size of Gaduridos |
| Message | Sounds reasonable. |
| Date | 17:47:33, June 08, 2014 CET | From | Progressive Workers of Gaduridos | To | Debating the Army Size of Gaduridos |
| Message | Does the Navy have no servicemen and servicewomen? And we think the numbers of the EES and IES are far too high. ESPECIALLY for the IES. Why do we need to spy on our citizens more than we do other countries? |
| Date | 19:30:38, June 08, 2014 CET | From | Progressive Conservative Party | To | Debating the Army Size of Gaduridos |
| Message | That's a good point PWG. Why so many IES? |
| Date | 19:44:06, June 08, 2014 CET | From | Workers Revolutionary League - Gaduridos | To | Debating the Army Size of Gaduridos |
| Message | Mostly used to intercept the actions of foreign spies in the national territory. |
| Date | 01:50:51, June 09, 2014 CET | From | Progressive Conservative Party | To | Debating the Army Size of Gaduridos |
| Message | We are going to vote "no", mainly because we want to see this topic discussed again. |
| Date | 10:37:01, June 09, 2014 CET | From | Progressive Workers of Gaduridos | To | Debating the Army Size of Gaduridos |
| Message | Yes, with things like this it is always better to reach a working majority before going into voting. Back to espionage, we are concerned that the IES might spy on Gaduridan citizens and residents. We think what might be a better idea is having the below: 1. State and local police departments for actual policing 2. A federal police department for federal cases AND domestic surveillance (i.e. including foreign elements in Gaduridan territory), although its powers need to be strictly regulated with strong oversight 3. An intelligence agency for intelligence gathering outside Gaduridan territory. (IRL USA police departments, FBI, and CIA. The FBI employs approx 35,000 people, the CIA 21,000. The USA has 3 times as many people and 10 times as many states as Gaduridos. Considering the above numbers and scaling, I think around 7,000 for the IES and 4,200 for the EES would be appropriate?) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 54 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 196 | ||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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