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Bill: Progressive Reform Bill - Separation Of Church And State Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Progressive Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2167
Description[?]:
| We propose these changes in the law to further the separation between church and state. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: Wearing religious clothing or religious symbols in public is illegal.
Proposed: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:41:37, January 01, 2006 CET | From | JLP Liberation Militia | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Separation Of Church And State Act |
| Message | JLP sees no reason to further the separation between church and state. This is not mandated in our constitution, and public officials should dress as they feel is appropriate in the exercise of their duties. |
| Date | 13:08:02, January 01, 2006 CET | From | Likaton Fascist Front | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Separation Of Church And State Act |
| Message | This is an attack on freedom of expression. If public officials wish to wear an artifact or religious clothing, who are we to say they can not ? Quoting from above "officials should dress as they feel is appropriate in the exercise of their duties" - if they have to perfom a duty that has a religious observance tied to it (eg, opening a religious welfare centre, or speaking at the funeral of a religious figure, etc etc) we feel that this is ENTIRELY appropriate that the official dress in a religious manner. Tolerance of religious beleifs is what needs to be acheived, not negatively reacting to a 'possible' offence. PSS strongly oppose, and will propose counter legislation if passed. |
| Date | 19:03:06, January 01, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Separation Of Church And State Act |
| Message | The AAS must support the Progressive Party on this measure, although we wish to see this issue taken to the NEXT logical stage. The Militant Atheist Front, of the AAS, insists that "Likatonian citizens can NEVER have freedom OF religion, UNTIL they can also have freedom FROM religion". |
| Date | 09:39:03, January 02, 2006 CET | From | The Strength Party | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Separation Of Church And State Act |
| Message | This is restricting freedom OF religion by granting people the right against seeing things. |
| Date | 13:47:13, January 02, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Separation Of Church And State Act |
| Message | Does the Strength Party believe it is, therefore, an infringement of freedom to prevent people from seeing babies being butchered? To prevent people from seeing those of darker skins being burned on crosses? To prevent people from seeing minorities from being gassed in death-camps? All of these things have taken place in the name of 'ideology'... be that ideology a religious one, a political one, or some other unique approach. We believe it is unfair for us to allow symbols that HAVE been used for barbaric and oppressive purposes in the past, to be publically displayed where they can cause offence. |
| Date | 21:48:54, January 03, 2006 CET | From | Likaton Fascist Front | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Separation Of Church And State Act |
| Message | It is an attack on tolerance. The citizens of our country are mature enough to realise that just because someone wears a religious symbol it does not mean that they are associated with the worst excesses of that religion. We have enough faith in the general populace to beleive that maturity, understanding and respect for another's position that is different to one's own in these matters will prevail. This legislation is assuming that likatonians are religiously bigoted. We argue they are not. |
| Date | 23:23:44, January 03, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Separation Of Church And State Act |
| Message | Too long has the Likatonian government been 'tolerant'. For far too long, all the power in the land has resided between the palms of the religious, who have used it as a tool to punish those with whom they disagree... like Likatonian Atheists, Agnostics, and minority religions. The AAS believes it is high time that the Likatonian government took a stand against abuse BY the church. |
| Date | 22:38:04, January 04, 2006 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Separation Of Church And State Act |
| Message | The RLP opposes this attempt to restrict the right of public officials to wear the symbols they see fit. Would we also prohibit them from wearing any political symbols while excersising their functions? I think not! |
| Date | 11:06:02, January 07, 2006 CET | From | Right Wing Liberals Party | To | Debating the Progressive Reform Bill - Separation Of Church And State Act |
| Message | What so a Public official cant wear a cross(etc) under their clothing or upon their person? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 306 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 124 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 70 |
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