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Bill: Repeal of Immunity - CMA MPs - 3759
Details
Submitted by[?]: Great National Republican Guard
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 3759
Description[?]:
MPs from the CMA have threatened to break the law intentionally, banking on their parliamentary privelege to protect them as they influence average civilians to face charges for breaking the law. If they truly represent the people, they should face charges with them. Evidence: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=57&p=78860#p78860 Our law says that an MP's parliamentary privelege may be overruled by a majority vote in the Presidium. Upon passage of this bill, MPs from the CMA will not have the privilege of immunity for the rest of the legislative term. After the next election, their privilege of immunity will be restored. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 21:36:45, November 15, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Repeal of Immunity - CMA MPs - 3759 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, We know what the consequences will be if this motion passes, but that will not affect our campaign of peaceful protest against the unjust laws forced upon us. This is the party of Walter the Martyr. We will not be bullied. Ignatz Linden Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance |
Date | 04:12:11, November 16, 2014 CET | From | Social Libermuns Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Immunity - CMA MPs - 3759 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Was Walter the first party leader? And, if not, who was the Hosian we executed? I can't seem to keep track. ~ Rowan Argall The President |
Date | 04:16:22, November 16, 2014 CET | From | Social Libermuns Party | To | Debating the Repeal of Immunity - CMA MPs - 3759 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Also, to the GNRG, could you please send us the immunity information? I am unaware of the specifics. Surely this type of thing would need 2/3 majority? It's a repeal of that which the Presidium is granted, which aught to be treated on the level of the constitution. Please correct me if I'm wrong. ~ Rowan Argall The President |
Date | 04:40:58, November 16, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Repeal of Immunity - CMA MPs - 3759 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Yes, Walter was the first party leader but that is irrelevant to this case. He was not a Member of the Presidium. He broke the law and was executed before the CMA got any seats. The law simply states that "Members of the national legislative body are exempted from any civil or criminal liability fot their speech or actions, but this immunity can be overruled by a vote in the nation's legislative body" therefore the immunity may be overruled once the bill passes. A supermajority is not required. -- Andre Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Vice President of Lodamun |
Date | 00:37:55, November 17, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Repeal of Immunity - CMA MPs - 3759 |
Message | OOC: Yeah, I agree with Siggon that this isn't a constitutional Bill requiring a 2/3rds majority. After all, changing the law on immunity for legislators does not require a 2/3rds majority. IC: Mr. Speaker, I urge Members of the Presidium to take heed of the fact that not only is this Bill unfair because it criminalises legitimate peaceful protest against an unjust law, but it is also unfair because it removes immunity from prosecution from MPs of only ONE party. How blatantly partisan is that? Ignatz Linden Conservative Monarchist Alliance |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 308 | ||||
no | Total Seats: 60 | ||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 231 |
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