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Bill: Privatization of Education Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Freedom Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 3764
Description[?]:
| Privatized education will guarantee quality education for citizens of Solentia. With schools focusing on profit they will become competitve and try their best to give better education for students so they can profit more. The competition will lower the price of school´s montlhy installments, so low income families will afford to pay the bill. Privatized education will also permit schools to create their own methods of education and will not keep schools stuck to goverment education methods, therefore the education will be modern and alternative. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The regulation of higher education.
Old value:: The government does not allow private higher education institutions.
Current: The government does not fund any public higher education institutions, permitting only private higher education institutions to exist.
Proposed: The government does not fund any public higher education institutions, permitting only private higher education institutions to exist.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Pre-school education.
Old value:: The government maintains a system of free publically owned nursery and pre-school educational centres.
Current: The government leaves development of nurseries to the private sector.
Proposed: The government leaves development of nurseries to the private sector.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The education system.
Old value:: Education is entirely public and free; private schools are banned.
Current: There is a free public education system alongside private schools.
Proposed: Education is entirely private and schools run on a for-profit basis.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:07:46, November 25, 2014 CET | From |  Solentias People Party | To | Debating the Privatization of Education Act |
| Message | This is nothing but capitalists making profits on our kids future, and detroying it in the preocess. This will greatly harm Solentia |
| Date | 22:03:40, November 25, 2014 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Privatization of Education Act |
| Message | Profit is exactly what will make education better. The privatization of education will count on schools competing with one another to see who can profit more. Therefore, schools will due their best to be the best so they can attract more students to their establishment, which will make them profit more. This will also cut down some spending from the goverment, so we can give citizens of Solentia a tax brake. |
| Date | 23:23:03, November 25, 2014 CET | From | Solentias People Party | To | Debating the Privatization of Education Act |
| Message | This is purely a ideological bill, you have no scientific proof to any of this. |
| Date | 23:29:11, November 25, 2014 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Privatization of Education Act |
| Message | "No scientific proof? Are you kidding me? This is basic economics, looks like SPP has a lot to learn." Peter Bethencourt, President of the Freedom Party |
| Date | 23:32:34, November 25, 2014 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Privatization of Education Act |
| Message | Correction of the first message from FP: "Therefore, schools wil DO their best..." |
| Date | 13:05:59, November 26, 2014 CET | From | Solentias People Party | To | Debating the Privatization of Education Act |
| Message | Without government interventions every capitalist economy would have allready killed itself. Can you name one sucessfull pure freemarket economy? |
| Date | 13:52:49, November 26, 2014 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Privatization of Education Act |
| Message | I can't name an Anarcho Capitalist government because the world has never seen one. However the world has seen socialism and it never worked, the more the government intervenes in the market it is worse for the nation. |
| Date | 13:53:12, November 26, 2014 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Privatization of Education Act |
| Message | Correction: Anarcho capitalist society |
| Date | 14:00:52, November 26, 2014 CET | From | Solentias People Party | To | Debating the Privatization of Education Act |
| Message | Note that im a democratic socialist. Look at scandinavia and germany, mixed economy my friend, that's the way to go. There are capitalst societys, most of the 3rd world is what we would call capitalist. That's why they are so poor. The great paradox of economic law and history is that the developed countrys developed only because of the government intervention. Why? Because the rich would not allow free competition. |
| Date | 14:20:01, November 26, 2014 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Privatization of Education Act |
| Message | I'm sorry but most of the third world like Africa are a post dictatorial country in which the government not only controlled the economy but also people's lives. In Latin America the so called "capitalism" is full of government interventions and bureaucracy that doesn't let the country's economy grow and fool their own people and foreign nations by manipulating government statistics. All these 3rd world countries you're talking about are full of government restrictions in the market. It is not the rich that doesn't let the market have competition, it is this policy of government interventions that restrict competition, by aiding corporations the government gives advantage to some companies, by taxing more the companies the government not only turns people's lives more costly it also suffocates small businesses, a free and good economy does not suffer any goverment interventions. |
| Date | 14:21:06, November 26, 2014 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Privatization of Education Act |
| Message | And if government interventions are so good, why didn't the USSR work out? |
| Date | 15:41:22, November 26, 2014 CET | From | Solentias People Party | To | Debating the Privatization of Education Act |
| Message | It is well know amongs economists that capitalism is inefficient in even the narrowest of perspectives. So to make it simple; Suppose you sold me a car, we may make a good deal for ourselfs. But we do not take into account the effect on "him" (what in economical theory is meant as the 3rd persons perspective, its whats called an externality). And there is an effect. If you sell me a car it increases gas prices, increases pollution, increases congestion. And that explains very broadly the so called externalities. Now in financial institutions it's far worse they're in the businessof taking risks. Suppose that a bank lends money, it cares only about one thing: It's own profits. Now there is a propurium called systemic risk. The risk is that if the market crashes somewhere its going to be contagious. And that is a fenominon with monstreous effects. But the investers doesn't think about that, they can't. You only think about your own risk. You cannot think about the cost to others, and the fact is that the contagiousy can destroy a whole system. But that's not a part of your calculations. That's a another externalitie. So the system is sort of built to magnifie extremly dangerous propriums. And this happens all over the place, what are called the externalities just dominate life. Systemic risk is an externalitie that many do not concider. But that externalitie would bring down the financial system repeatedly if you didn't have state power. But there is another one that is even worse, that's the distruction of the inviroment. The destruction of the inviroment is an externalitie. In market interactions you don't pay attention to it, so if you're a major energy corporation and you can make profit out of exploiting for example tar sands you simply do not take into account the fact that your grand children may not have a possibility to survive on this planet. That's an externalitie. In the moral calculus of capitalism greater profits the next fiscal year outweighs the faith of your grandchildren. That's of course not only your grandchildren but everyones. Markets are suppose to be magnificent because they increase you choices, actually they ristrict your chioces. If you think about it for a minute. Suppose i want to get home from work at night, okey? The markets offers me a chioce; I can have a Ford or toyota. It does not offer me the chioce of a subway, what i want. What's good for me, what's good for the enviroment, what's good for my children. But that's not offered by the market, markets offer individual consumption. And the enormous stress on the importance of markets is part of the way to drive people towards looking for yourself. Amassing as many commodities you can and forget everything else. Infact anyone who have ever taken a economic course or read about it knows what the market's are suppose to be; Markets are suppose to be systems in which informed consumers make rational chioces. I'm sure everyone here have turned on a television set, now what do you see when you turn on a television set? You see that there is a huge industry, public relations industry which began in the United States and Britain incidentally. Huge industry which is designed to undermine markets. Every ad is an attempt to create an uninformed consumer who will make an irational chioce. Huge efforts on the parts of the business world to undermine markets but to keep the aspect that's usefull for profit and power, namely separating people from one another, focusing on individual chioces and not working with you neighbor. If you have private ownerchip of the means of production. First of all it's not just one person its an institution so maybe its corporations or a private business or something. Internally it's essentially a totalitarian institution, almost necessarily. These's a groupe at the top, they make the decissions, they give orders to the people down the hierarchy. At the very bottom you have the people who are permitted to rent themselves to survive, and it's called a "job" or wage-labour. And you get the outside communitie who's allowed to purchase what you produce, and of course theres heavy propaganda to make them want consume even if they don't. That the nature of the system, that's about as close to totalitarianism as you can imagine. Private enterprises works just the way Wilton Friedman says: You give the worst possible service at the highest possible profit. That's what it means to be "In the business". If you try to be benevolent you're out of busniess because somebody else under cuts you. So the nature of the system (This goes way back to Adam Smith) is to be as mean and rotten as you can to try to maximize the profit and the market chares and give the worst possible service, same with the HMO's and everything else. |
| Date | 15:47:03, November 26, 2014 CET | From | Solentias People Party | To | Debating the Privatization of Education Act |
| Message | Oh my, to compare government intervention with planned economy is as ignorant as it gets. |
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