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Bill: Budget proposal of March 3790
Details
Submitted by[?]: Ffrynt y Druid
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 3793
Description[?]:
| Mr Speaker, I am pleased to hear our president announce that he is preparing to eliminate wasteful spending in certain government sectors. We do not however agree with him on how this is to be done. In general, we Good Folk™ support increasing the overall size of the government, and the health care system will be part of those reforms. On the whole, we need to implement systems were public money for the welfare system goes to private, outsourced dealers, through the customer - the taxpayer - instead of directly to second class socialist welfare establishments. However, with the current system in place, we are not ready to support any cuts to health care and social security. Instead, we would opt to crush the wasteful spending on the establishments favourite playthings - education, culture and science. These budgets are absurdly high and in need of big cuts. Ideally, the government has little place in the science sector at al, and it is no less a theft from the taxpayer to spend money of your funny 'playthings' than on welfare. Our budget also contains much needed improvements to the environmental and agricultural sectors, which you have neglected for centuries, as well as fine cuts to government spending on interfering with the economy. Let the ordinary people handle that. Tristan Sailor Tanist of the Werin Da |
Proposals
Article 1
| Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
| Head of Government | 40,000,000 ALO | 70,000,000 ALO | 70,000,000 ALO |
| Foreign Affairs | 5,300,000,000 ALO | 700,000,000 ALO | 650,000,000 ALO |
| Internal Affairs | 17,000,000,000 ALO | 1,800,000,000 ALO | 3,000,000,000 ALO |
| Finance | 7,000,000,000 ALO | 4,500,000,000 ALO | 3,400,000,000 ALO |
| Defence | 30,000,000,000 ALO | 22,500,000,000 ALO | 23,000,000,000 ALO |
| Justice | 35,000,000,000 ALO | 5,300,000,000 ALO | 5,300,000,000 ALO |
| Infrastructure and Transport | 30,000,000,000 ALO | 8,750,000,000 ALO | 8,050,000,000 ALO |
| Health and Social Services | 18,000,000,000 ALO | 39,250,000,000 ALO | 39,250,000,000 ALO |
| Education and Culture | 25,000,000,000 ALO | 37,500,000,000 ALO | 30,000,000,000 ALO |
| Science and Technology | 4,000,000,000 ALO | 10,300,000,000 ALO | 6,500,000,000 ALO |
| Food and Agriculture | 6,500,000,000 ALO | 3,750,000,000 ALO | 4,050,000,000 ALO |
| Environment and Tourism | 2,000,000,000 ALO | 1,875,000,000 ALO | 2,075,000,000 ALO |
| Trade and Industry | 10,000,000,000 ALO | 5,500,000,000 ALO | 4,000,000,000 ALO |
| Total | 189,840,000,000 ALO | 141,795,000,000 ALO | 129,345,000,000 ALO |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:13:00, January 23, 2015 CET | From | Alorian Front Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of March 3790 |
| Message | I have no opposition to the current budget. |
| Date | 01:18:48, January 23, 2015 CET | From | Alorian Reform Movement | To | Debating the Budget proposal of March 3790 |
| Message | We won't support. We oppose the cuts to Science and Technology after we fought to get them up to good levels. I don't understand why no cuts to Health. We don't have compuslary pensions, retirement age is higher, people living longer, and we don't have a entire free public health care system either. |
| Date | 01:34:08, January 23, 2015 CET | From | Alorian Reform Movement | To | Debating the Budget proposal of March 3790 |
| Message | I can get in line with Education cuts, the extra Defense spending, cuts in FA, Finance. That's it. |
| Date | 03:40:01, January 23, 2015 CET | From |  Comiwnyddion Hosnogol | To | Debating the Budget proposal of March 3790 |
| Message | We support most of this. We'd be in favor of increasing the defense budget by even more as well. |
| Date | 03:52:51, January 23, 2015 CET | From | Alorian Front Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of March 3790 |
| Message | Aloria has never been a nation that spent on its military.Lets face it.Aloria is protected.Our money is better saved till the deficit is erased. |
| Date | 04:53:01, January 28, 2015 CET | From | Alorian Front Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of March 3790 |
| Message | no cuts in education and science.Opposed |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 133 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 199 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 40 |
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