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Bill: Solving the Cabinet Crisis
Details
Submitted by[?]: Acies Nationalis
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 3827
Description[?]:
| Senators, While they are the largest party they do not hold a majority. Nobody wishes to rule with the Dundorfians.. yet they are the only ones who can propose a cabinet! With my first official act as Imperator I wish to propose we fix this issue by amending the laws on this matter. Caius Cassius Sophus Imperator omnes Seluciae |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The constitutional right and responsibility to propose a cabinet to the legislature.
Old value:: Only the largest party can propose a cabinet.
Current: Only the largest party can propose a cabinet.
Proposed: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:36:59, April 05, 2015 CET | From | LP | To | Debating the Solving the Cabinet Crisis |
| Message | Dear Caius Cassius Sophus Imperator omnes Seluciae, you were elected with the support of the KLP as well. And the FA is also able to form a cabinet as the law says clearly: "Only the largest parties can propose a cabinet.". And inspite of your negative champaign and mudraking we are still by quite a margin the largest party and therefore the KLP of course should have a place in the new cabinet. And instead of consquently and repeatedly opposing us I would suggest that we try to go the same way. I therefore suggest a constitutional convent in order to hear all parties and all opinions to modernize our constitution where necessary and to retain what is good. Eberhard von Voralbergius, Princeps Senatus |
| Date | 22:17:49, April 05, 2015 CET | From | Acies Nationalis | To | Debating the Solving the Cabinet Crisis |
| Message | Princeps Senatus, Are you arguing that because your party chose to support my election without me asking somehow puts me in a debt with you? I do not see the relevance that you chose to support my nomination with this subject. And this "quite a margin" you speak of is 17 seats out of 401. Only seventeen seats is not "quite a" margin, mr. von Voralbergius. Seeing as all the opposition stands united in ousting the Dundorfian junta you only garnered a meagre 32 percent of the votes, the other 68 percent voted for change. And that they shall receive, this shall be the first step of our new democracy, a Selucian democracy in the classic style. Every factio should be able to propose a cabinet. Lastly, I believe if I speak for all of the active opposition when I say that none of us think the KLP should ever be seated in the government again. Caius Cassius Sophus Imperator omnes Seluciae |
| Date | 22:29:16, April 05, 2015 CET | From | LP | To | Debating the Solving the Cabinet Crisis |
| Message | Dear Caius Cassius Sophus Imperator omnes Seluciae, you were elected with our support and therefore you are also our Imperator as you are the Imperator of all people. This is a fact and if you are not prepared to see this you are denying the votes of many people in this country. And what is about your party? Nothing! Not even double-digit figures did you and your collegaues achieve and now your and your freinda are demanding change and try to tell a party which won over 20% more then your fractio that it should not belong to the government. Don't make yourself a laughting-stock like the former Imperator. And united? Well, obviously we will see this, as the I am sure the vast majority of Sentaors, will see that we the KLP defended this country before you were ever heared of! You opposed the help for the Selucians in Pontesi, you were not around voting to institute sacntions on Pontesi, you were not around during the torubled times of the Zardugal-Jelbic war. You were not around when the KLP threw out the Zards and other nations and their military bases. You were not around when we rehoused the refugees in Pontesi and Jelbania to ensure Selucian influence. You were not around when the KLP reintroduced the old latin hymne of Selucia and its name and titles. You were not around when we introduced the NFR to ensure no foreigners enter Selucia illegally. You did nothing for this country and I am sure the Senators will see this. Eberhard von Voralbergius, Princeps Senatus |
| Date | 18:42:29, April 06, 2015 CET | From | Acies Nationalis | To | Debating the Solving the Cabinet Crisis |
| Message | Princeps Senatus, The people of Selucia were free to vote for me and for the agenda I preached, which was united amongst the opposition. During my entire campaign the mantra was "rid us of the Dundorfian junta" and nonetheless you chose to support me. That is your party denying your voters an Imperator they desire. Now you mock our dearest Imperatrix who worked so hard to stop you from becoming a dictator of Selucia, your 32 percent makes your party the minority, mister von Voralbergius, you can keep denying this and preach it is your god-given right to rule this nation but it is not! Furthermore, when who or what was where throughout the lifetime of Selucia is as relevant as a rooster on a clock tower. We are here now, Princeps Senatus, and your days of the dictatorship are over as the voting on this bill clearly proves. Caius Cassius Sophus Imperator omnes Seluciae |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 213 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 129 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 59 |
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