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Bill: Amendment To Senate Rules: Censure
Details
Submitted by[?]: Imperial Kalistan Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2055
Description[?]:
This bill is to amend the Senate rules to allow for CENSURE of any party that breaks the rules of the Senate. Such rules include, but not limited to: - Personal attacks against other Senators Censure shall consist of a temporary barring from Senate chambers such Party that violates Senate rules. OOC: A 24 hour banning to be presented to admins for approval. NOTE: TWO-THIRD VOTE required for censure. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 16:21:49, May 18, 2005 CET | From | Pansexual Peace Party -- FNORD | To | Debating the Amendment To Senate Rules: Censure |
Message | OOC: Who will be the one determining the Bans? We feel that some elements in the Senate could use this new power for political matters. |
Date | 17:31:56, May 18, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Libertarian Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the Amendment To Senate Rules: Censure |
Message | OOC: We agree. We feel that if a member of the coalition government, or someone with high number of seats anyway, made a personal attack, it would be brushed off, while it would be a different matter if another party with less seats or opposing views did. |
Date | 19:11:45, May 18, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Kalistan Party | To | Debating the Amendment To Senate Rules: Censure |
Message | Any party can make the motion to censure. It is not limited to "coalition" members that can do this. Evidence must also be presented. OOC: The evidence that must be presented are the posts made. There can be no question on those. |
Date | 21:26:13, May 18, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Kalistan Party | To | Debating the Amendment To Senate Rules: Censure |
Message | To the PPP: Majority vote will determine censures. |
Date | 23:48:30, May 18, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Libertarian Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the Amendment To Senate Rules: Censure |
Message | If a majority vote would determine censures, then a member with a high number of seats could easially avoid censure by organizing a coalition with other like-minded parties who it isn't in their best interests for that party to be out for a day. Smaller parties wouldn't have this option. |
Date | 02:30:51, May 19, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Kalistan Party | To | Debating the Amendment To Senate Rules: Censure |
Message | Would two-thirds be better then? |
Date | 03:49:11, May 19, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Libertarian Party of Kalistan | To | Debating the Amendment To Senate Rules: Censure |
Message | That would make sure that the parties that are censured deserve it. It makes the bill more appealing to the FRP. |
Date | 16:15:34, May 19, 2005 CET | From | Imperial Kalistan Party | To | Debating the Amendment To Senate Rules: Censure |
Message | OK, changed to 2/3 vote required for censure |
Date | 17:59:37, May 19, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Neoliberalist Party | To | Debating the Amendment To Senate Rules: Censure |
Message | The reason I don't like it is because it seems to be more on an IC crossing into OOC and vica versa. I just don't think we should be able to vote for bannings. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 204 | |||
no |
Total Seats: 183 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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