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Bill: Bill L6 : my body, My choice one
Details
Submitted by[?]: Friends of Nature
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3859
Description[?]:
| the parliament is so machist, it is unbelievable. This is my stupid bodies, you guys have no say with what I can do with my bodies, I don't want any of you in my bodies. Having an abortion, and no being a mother is my choice. Magaly Black-White |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the entire course of the pregnancy.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:23:24, June 08, 2015 CET | From | Capitalist Working Families | To | Debating the Bill L6 : my body, My choice one |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The Friends of Nature is forgetting ONE crucial point: It is NOT a woman's body, but the BABY's body who can have a DIFFERENT blood type than the mother. Now, what will have happened if the MOTHER of Ms. Magaly Black-White and the MOTHER of our Madame Prime Minister Sarah E. would have exercised her so-called "Right to Choose"??? We yield the floor.\ ---The CWFP |
| Date | 20:43:13, June 08, 2015 CET | From | Friends of Nature | To | Debating the Bill L6 : my body, My choice one |
| Message | Mr. Speaker. I am very insulted, there is no use to discussed of thing that could happen in the past, we women are not incubators. We are humans and deserve to be recognize are equal of men, Men have the right to choose vasectomy and no one would accuse a men undergoing a vasectomy to murder his future (children) Abortion ough to be legalized during the entire course of pregnancy. And my Mother had 6 child because she loved children, in she fact, she wanted more, but because of law in her times, she could not get fertility treatment. Magaly Black-White |
| Date | 21:06:30, June 08, 2015 CET | From | Capitalist Working Families | To | Debating the Bill L6 : my body, My choice one |
| Message | Ms. Magaly Black-White: You are comparing apples to oranges. If a man has a vasectomy (or a woman "ties her tubes"), that is NOT murder because the sperm and egg has NOT been fertilized and there is no human being. However, we are saying that AFTER fertilization takes place and the baby has a unique DNA sequence, the State must protect that child. However, if a woman can DIE giving birth to that baby, current law ALLOWS her to have an abortion to save her life.....but you are supporting abortion "for birth control" which is MURDER. Again, what will have happened if YOUR mother "chose to have an abortion"??? You would not be here to make this argument in this Parliament. Moreover, we resent the comment that we believe women are "incubators." Modern science has enabled women to put their fertilized embryos in an ARTIFICIAL WOMB to where the child can develop INDEPENDENTLY of the mother. If she does NOT want the baby, just put the baby in an ARTIFICIAL WOMB and/or incubator: cf. http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/01/04/artificial-wombs-the-coming-era-of-motherless-births/ ---The CWFP |
| Date | 23:44:52, June 08, 2015 CET | From | UNSC (ONI) | To | Debating the Bill L6 : my body, My choice one |
| Message | Mr speaker We wholeheartedly agree with the CWeF, and otherwise, why does the FON choose to endorse the individuals right over their body in abortion, but not smoking. At least in smoking they are taking their own risks, not forcing the voiceless into them. And the fact that this push aims to destroy those who cannot fight back is reminiscent of the Aryan race in Nazi Germany during the Holocaust ( not sure if Terra has a parralel to that so I'll just use IRL events), or slavery. Calling people non human is just an excuse for the most vile of human behavior. We are sad that this form of mind has been accepted, but it would be counter productive to refer to abortionists as anything less then otherwise smart and intelligent people, who are only human. |
| Date | 01:00:34, June 09, 2015 CET | From | Friends of Nature | To | Debating the Bill L6 : my body, My choice one |
| Message | Mr. Speaker. there are no one that run in street and ask for women to get abortion as soon possible cause abortion is fun. We simply beleive women should be given the choice to make decision that will affect theirs lives, not the lives of others. decisions with little consequences to their lives we might add. Now you talk about smoking. Smoking is someone who's selling a product of death and who knows it, smoking create dependancy and smoking kills. people who smoke simply don't know what are their best interests, because, if they knew, they would not smoke. just like those drink milk, if they knew what milk really is, they would never touch it. Our party is determined to protect the weak from those who have power and we will never let the weak down. Audrey-Sophie Black-White. |
| Date | 01:18:20, June 09, 2015 CET | From | UNSC (ONI) | To | Debating the Bill L6 : my body, My choice one |
| Message | Mr speaker There is a special form of depression sometimes arising in women who have miscarriages, or those who've had abortions. Regardless of whether or not we admit that our children are people, our bodies and minds know perfectly well. |
| Date | 04:03:17, June 09, 2015 CET | From | Friends of Nature | To | Debating the Bill L6 : my body, My choice one |
| Message | MR. Speaker, no one is debatting about the children, we are talking about unborn child, people who are not alive yet. and no one is encourageing abortion, we believe it must legal, Currently, Abortion are carried away in dark clinics because the government is unable to control, then again, we would have to put more money in the government, because right now, the government is unable to carry out its role due to the limited taxes there are in Rutania. |
| Date | 04:54:15, June 09, 2015 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Party | To | Debating the Bill L6 : my body, My choice one |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We will abstain, we oppose allowing a baby that is almost born to be murdered, many of our members support private abortion in the first trimester. Sarah Eibenschütz Prime Minister |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 322 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 233 |
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