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Bill: Making A Fairer Political System
Details
Submitted by[?]: Luthori Liberal Democrats
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 3899
Description[?]:
| A bill to bring in a more representative political system. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The salaries of members of parliament and/or government.
Old value:: Members of parliament and/or government are entitled to a comparatively large salary.
Current: Members of parliament and/or government are entitled to a comparatively large salary.
Proposed: Members of parliament and/or government are entitled to a comparatively average salary.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The length of a legislative and executive term, in months. Should be between 24 and 72.
Old value:: 48
Current: 60
Proposed: 60
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The total number of seats in the legislative assembly. Should be between 75 and 750.
Old value:: 355
Current: 650
Proposed: 600
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:47:59, August 25, 2015 CET | From | Luthori Liberal Democrats | To | Debating the Making A Fairer Political System |
| Message | If you do disagree with any of this, please do raise it and I will amend if necessary. |
| Date | 16:35:49, August 25, 2015 CET | From | Conservative Party of Luthori | To | Debating the Making A Fairer Political System |
| Message | We disagree with all of it. |
| Date | 19:52:47, August 25, 2015 CET | From | Luthori Liberal Democrats | To | Debating the Making A Fairer Political System |
| Message | That's nice to know! How so? |
| Date | 21:58:46, August 25, 2015 CET | From | Alliance Against Left | To | Debating the Making A Fairer Political System |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Our party's statement is that while some part of this bill is right, most of it is wrong. The first and the second article - we have to disagree. Monarchy has always been one of aspects that make our country great and it is deeply rooted in Luthorian tradition. Democratic control of power in the Holy Empire is already large and it functions well, we don't need further democratisation. We would rather focus on decentralisation, deregulation and privatisation. The third article - we have to disagree. Not only would this cost the Luthorian citizens much money as the Diet members have large salary (which is a subject for another bill) - it would also bring chaos to Diet sessions. Please just imagine if there were twice as much of us in this room! And the representativeness of the Diet wouldn't even change. The fourth article - we can agree. Longer terms would bring more stability to the political situation and could allow the government to think more of the future. If we were to vote on this bill in its current form - we wouldn't vote 'yes'. We would probably abstain. I yield. |
| Date | 00:11:23, August 26, 2015 CET | From | Luthori Liberal Democrats | To | Debating the Making A Fairer Political System |
| Message | I am firm on a larger number of representatives. Perhaps that may stay at the expense of articles 1 and 2? |
| Date | 15:14:21, August 26, 2015 CET | From | Alliance Against Left | To | Debating the Making A Fairer Political System |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Well then, our party would accept increase of the Diet seats' number, but to no higher value than 600 and only with simultaneous decrease of the Diet members' salary to at least national average. I yield |
| Date | 18:34:24, August 26, 2015 CET | From | Luthori Liberal Democrats | To | Debating the Making A Fairer Political System |
| Message | I agree to those requests. |
| Date | 22:29:38, August 26, 2015 CET | From | Alliance Against Left | To | Debating the Making A Fairer Political System |
| Message | //an old man enters the podium Thank you, Mr Speaker. Well... The bill has been returned to us for debate... and this is great because before we start voting, I want to raise an important issue. First let me introduce myself. My name is Harold Eiffel, I am a representative from Yodukan, elected from anti-left list. I am also the First Vice-president of the Luthorian Grammar Nazi Society. I have studied our Constitution recently and I have found a horrible mistake! There is an extra dot in the Diet's name... Or "the Diet.'s" name. Just see! //starts reading the Constitution "There shall be a legislature for the Holy Luthori Empire, called the Holy Imperial Diet., in which all legislative powers under this Constitution shall be vested." "The Holy Imperial Diet."! There is a dot where there shouldn't be one. And this dot has to go away. I demand changing the name "The Holy Imperial Diet." to "The Holy Imperial Diet". I yield. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 304 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 51 |
| Random fact: Moderation reserves the discretion to declare RP laws invalid if the players supporting them are doing so in an excessively confrontational way. |
| Random quote: "A prince never lacks legitimate reasons to break his promise." - Niccolo Machiavelli |