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Bill: Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170
Details
Submitted by[?]: Aloria Green Socialist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2171
Description[?]:
| This cabinet has the potential to destroy coalition politics in Aloria! |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the Llywydd (President) chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Democratic Socialist Party
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Memorare Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the 
Aloria Green Socialist Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Freedom Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Fair Capitalism Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Aloria Green Socialist Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Memorare Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Democratic Socialist Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Democratic Liberal Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Lord-General Drache Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Lord-General Drache Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Fair Capitalism Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:41:35, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Hoorah! It's time to bring this undemocratic system down! |
| Date | 04:15:49, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | *laugh* And this is more democratic? It has none of the parties the people voted in power. If this passes it *will* be repealed. |
| Date | 04:20:23, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Also, the ICP wonders why the LGDP gets one cabinet spot more than the DLP although they only have 2/600 (1/300, a third of a percent) difference in the actual parliament seat count? This obviously is unrepresentative. |
| Date | 04:33:18, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | "This cabinet has the potential to destroy coalition politics in Aloria!" Mhmm.... Do you know that a cabinet is a cabinet coalition? Do you also know that if this passes, all it will do is make the cabinet less representative because the Aloria Coalition will be forced to split the entire cabinet between three parties? |
| Date | 04:35:27, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | P.S. It's also bad to form yourself as an "anti-" group. Why do you think the pro-lifers are called "pro-life" and not "anti-abortion"? |
| Date | 04:36:45, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Hammerian Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | If this is supposed to be a sick, twisted joke, we're not laughing. Against. |
| Date | 04:47:48, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Also, the FCP loses their Interior ministry for an inferior one. Are they willing to lose power just to get back at us? |
| Date | 06:15:58, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | "If this is supposed to be a sick, twisted joke, we're not laughing." Yes, because "sick, twisted jokes" come in the form of opposition to you. |
| Date | 06:31:57, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Wrong, FP. The joke's on you. You voted yes: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=44816 That means that you endorse renaming Aloria to the Aloria Coalitional Confederacy of Aloria as well as adding "Aloria Coalition" to many of Aloria's positions. What a hypocrite. I doubt that they'll let you be head of government. |
| Date | 12:55:48, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Let's hope the parties voting yes stay their course. Freedom in Aloria! |
| Date | 13:41:46, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | OOC: Shouldn't this have passed? More than half of the legislature has voted 'yes' and everyone involved in the cabinet has. |
| Date | 13:46:38, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | It has to wait for the next month. |
| Date | 13:50:54, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | The DLP is delighted that this bill is set to pass. Despite tantrums from the ICP it is clear that their reign of terror is over! Down with the AC! Up with Democracy! |
| Date | 14:53:06, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | DLP: 1) It wasn't a reign of terror. 2) I am now suing you under the laws of publication of libel this nation has. |
| Date | 14:56:40, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Oh wait, DLP now controls the mininstry of justice. How interesting, eh? This is a sign of fascism - when the one who spreads lies becomes the Minister of Jusitce and thus a fair trial cannot be assured. We have to take this to a neutral place: The World Court |
| Date | 15:06:20, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | We deny any libel, we were stating the truth. Does the ICP not believe in freedom of speech? And did the ICP bother to observe that my party was proposed for the Justice Ministry before I made those comments? |
| Date | 15:13:07, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | You made other comments of libel before, and you are not stating the truth. That is why I am accusing you of libel... http://www.takeforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4574&mforum=particracy If you don't like it, you shouldn't have said what you said. The Aloria Coalition had neither a reign of terror nor was undemocratic. |
| Date | 15:16:55, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | We consider this a very immature way of dealing with your opponents. |
| Date | 15:18:47, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | It is not immature. The ICP is simply using open methods to deal with fascist lie-publishers who have control of the parliament. |
| Date | 15:20:21, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | "fascist lie-publishers who have control of the parliament." Look who's talking. |
| Date | 15:32:57, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Yes, look who's talking. Read the thread. My lawyer has already defended it. |
| Date | 16:05:12, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Ha! It seems that the true face of the Aloria Coalition has been shown in this debate! Down with coalitions! Power to the people of Aloria. If the AC disbands, I'm sure their former members will be included in future representitive cabinets. |
| Date | 16:08:20, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Hear hear! |
| Date | 16:14:28, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | "It's also bad to form yourself as an "anti-" group. Why do you think the pro-lifers are called "pro-life" and not "anti-abortion"?" We could call ourselves the Pro-Democracy government if you like. But you wouldn't like that would you? In fact you'd probably sue us. |
| Date | 16:19:26, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | The AGSP members roar with laughter and point at the ICP members at this point. |
| Date | 18:33:28, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Social Reform Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Fascists. |
| Date | 19:09:53, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Yes, as I stated in another bill they fit all 4 requirements of fascism... |
| Date | 20:30:42, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Pot. Kettle. Black. |
| Date | 22:14:18, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | You know, you'll run out eventually like the Aloria Coalition. Have your fun now. |
| Date | 23:27:20, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | As long as parties want to work for the good of Aloria, and not for themselves, exist, then the AC will fail. |
| Date | 02:39:51, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | That is a lie. |
| Date | 14:40:39, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Oh no it isn't! |
| Date | 21:14:07, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | You all rely on libel. |
| Date | 02:20:25, January 16, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Dare you call the lawyers? Back up your fictional claims! |
| Date | 04:06:53, January 16, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | Oh, if DLP is successfully sued for libel, then I'd sue you too for libel by calling the claims "fictional." :P |
| Date | 09:05:47, January 16, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Anti AC Cabinet Proposal of December 2170 |
| Message | I think the counter-suit would be easy, with your constant braying of "lies!". Poppinjay! :D |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 319 | |||||||
| no | Total Seats: 213 | |||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 68 |
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