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Bill: Military Service Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Libertarian Citizens
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3915
Description[?]:
| It is a shame for such a free nation as Beluzia to force her citizens to serve in the military upon completion of their education. This goes against individual freedom. Libertarian Citizens believe Beluzians should be free to choose how to serve their country beyond compulsory military service or civilian national service. Could they not, perhaps, serve their nation better by focusing on their studies, by building big business that will help the economy, by developing their skills in the profession of their choice and make of Beluzia a more unique, more recognised, more diverse place? A Beluzia of freer and stronger citizens is a freer and stronger Beluzia, one that has nothing to fear from the outside! We believe there should be no mandatory military service, and could compromise for a limited national service in order to reinforce that feeling of belonging to a nation, of knitting a society together, although we still believe each individual should choose freely how to "serve" the nation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Current: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term of civilian national service.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:20:47, September 29, 2015 CET | From | Beluzian Coalition of the Regions | To | Debating the Military Service Act |
| Message | Strongly opposed. The nation, our democracy and our values should be defended well. Everyone has an abligation to contribute. |
| Date | 13:29:34, September 29, 2015 CET | From | United People's Party | To | Debating the Military Service Act |
| Message | We support this bill. While we do not see this as a civil liberty issue, the UPP strongly believe that we need professional people in our military, citizens that want to serve our nation, not because they have to be there. |
| Date | 16:33:49, September 29, 2015 CET | From | Libertarian Citizens | To | Debating the Military Service Act |
| Message | We will await word from the National Freedom Party before putting it to the vote. |
| Date | 17:21:41, September 29, 2015 CET | From | National Freedom Party | To | Debating the Military Service Act |
| Message | Before we state our position we would like to clarify that the legislation currently on the books does make an exemption for education, by saying that "all adults upon completion of schooling..." and we only mention it because it seems like a concern for the Libertarian Citizens. Our official position is that some sort of service should be endorsed. Civilian national services has shows its merits as it creates a sense of civic pride and endorses a closer knit national identity. We pose to the LC a compromise, that we only mandate civilian service, as it is paid, usually in the field of study of the person, and has the obvious benefits mentioned previously. We await the LC's response and afterward we will declare an official position on the legislation. |
| Date | 17:50:23, September 29, 2015 CET | From | Libertarian Citizens | To | Debating the Military Service Act |
| Message | Libertarian Citizens could compromise to some sort of national service, but on that should be chosen by each individual upon completion of their education. We have changed the description accordingly. We still stand by the abolition of the national military service. We believe a professional military service will protect the nation better. Also, we have a population that is numerous enough; we don't have to force our citizens into the army. There will be more than enough citizens who will choose to serve in the military as their career choice. |
| Date | 20:30:30, September 29, 2015 CET | From | National Freedom Party | To | Debating the Military Service Act |
| Message | OOC: Be sure to amend the policy as well. |
| Date | 01:54:35, September 30, 2015 CET | From | Libertarian Citizens | To | Debating the Military Service Act |
| Message | It has been changed now. Apologies for the delay. We are still new to the system! We will put it to the vote presently. We hope to count with the support of NFP and UPP. |
| Date | 02:43:56, September 30, 2015 CET | From | National Freedom Party | To | Debating the Military Service Act |
| Message | This will have the President's full support. |
| Date | 08:43:04, September 30, 2015 CET | From | Beluzian Coalition of the Regions | To | Debating the Military Service Act |
| Message | We ask our NFP friends kindly ro reconsider their position on this. That would be very much appreciated by the BCR. |
| Date | 02:45:11, October 01, 2015 CET | From | National Freedom Party | To | Debating the Military Service Act |
| Message | We lament having to take back our support and endorse our Coalition partner's stance on this issue, out of respect for the current government agreement. We inform the LC that were the bill presented in the next parliament it would receive a revision and all due diligence. |
| Date | 06:34:34, October 01, 2015 CET | From | Beluzian Coalition of the Regions | To | Debating the Military Service Act |
| Message | We thank the NFP for that. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 299 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 151 |
| Random fact: In order for a Cabinet bill to pass, more than half of the legislature must vote for it and all of the parties included in the proposed Cabinet must support it. If your nation has a Head of State who is also the Head of Government, then the party controlling this character must also vote for the bill, since the Head of Government is also a member of the Cabinet. If any of these requirements are not met, the bill will not pass. |
| Random quote: "Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon so long as there is no answer to it gives claws to the weak." - George Orwell |