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Bill: Higher Education Subsidy Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Libertarian Citizens
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3916
Description[?]:
| Libertarian Citizens believe in compulsory education until adulthood. Currently, the Law requires compulsory education until citizens are of 20 years of age, two years after adulthood is achieved. At the same time, education is only subsidised for families with low income. This is unfair. Because our commitment to a highly developed and educated society is unquestionable, Libertarian Citizens propose to fully subsidise education until citizens are older than 20 years of age. It is only fair. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government subsidizes tuition only for students from families classified as low-income or poor.
Current: The government subsidizes tuition only for students from families classified as low-income or poor.
Proposed: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:42:38, September 30, 2015 CET | From | National Freedom Party | To | Debating the Higher Education Subsidy Act |
| Message | We disagree. While we understand this is one of LCs main platform proposals but we cannot turn back from the course of fiscal responsibility. I would ask the LC to live up to their name and endorse libertarian principles which demand personal responsibility and as little government involvement as possible. We kindly ask that the resolution be tabled and warn that if it isn't we will vote against. |
| Date | 12:31:25, September 30, 2015 CET | From | Libertarian Citizens | To | Debating the Higher Education Subsidy Act |
| Message | We cannot justify not supporting a fully subsidised education when all citizens are expected and required by law to study until they are 20. What will be next? Telling them how much they should spend in their weekly grocery shopping but only helping those who are poor? This could be classed as positive discrimination, which we believe isn't supported by Beluzian Law. Libertarian Citizens also express our long term goal of a non-cumpulsary education, obviously at a time when very few would opt out of a free and high quality education; this is a proposal to fix a temporary injustice. |
| Date | 15:21:25, September 30, 2015 CET | From | National Freedom Party | To | Debating the Higher Education Subsidy Act |
| Message | Those who cannot pay their own are by law guaranteed tuition. We would direct the LC to read the proposal they are replacing. Hardly an injustice when those worse off are still taken care of. |
| Date | 02:44:45, October 01, 2015 CET | From | Libertarian Citizens | To | Debating the Higher Education Subsidy Act |
| Message | LC believe all citizens should have the same rights, access to the same education quality. If citizens are required by Law to be in full time education until they are 20 years old, two years above adulthood, we believe education must be paid for by the Government. Of course this could prove tricky when we want to give our taxpayer's money away to big corporations... |
| Date | 02:46:47, October 01, 2015 CET | From | National Freedom Party | To | Debating the Higher Education Subsidy Act |
| Message | Name one instance where the NFP has voted for a policy that does not make considerations for those least fortunate and we will accept the remark, until then the Libertarian Citizens party should stick to betraying its name like it has in the last barrage of policy proposals. |
| Date | 13:43:13, October 01, 2015 CET | From | United People's Party | To | Debating the Higher Education Subsidy Act |
| Message | The UPP believe tin the concept of free education but we also understand the fiscal burden such a policy brings. It's an ideal that requires much thought and planning as well independent costings. The UPP has been very critical of the government in it's budget and must ask the same questions of this bill. If the LP can explain how they would pay for this we might very well support it. |
| Date | 00:33:39, October 02, 2015 CET | From | Libertarian Citizens | To | Debating the Higher Education Subsidy Act |
| Message | LC agree that we would have to add and remove legislation currently passed and enforced by the Government, in order to secure the funds for one of the pillars of society. As the UPP are aware, new legislation has just been passed that abolishes taxing of luxury goods and corporation profit. We believe these actions make our proposal almost impossible to implement. LC, at the moment, will push this through to the voting stage to make it clear and obvious to the public where the current government stands when it comes to their citizens' long term aspirations and short-term profit. We believe this proposal offers a chance for other parties to at least stand with dignity as a true alternative. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 87 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 299 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: The people in your nation don't like inactive parties. When you often abstain from voting for a bill, they will dislike your party and your visibility to the electorate will decrease significantly. Low visibility will means you are likely to lose seats. So keep in mind: voting Yes or No is always better than Abstaining. |
| Random quote: "When the tyrant has disposed of foreign enemies by conquest or treaty, and there is nothing to fear from them, then he is always stirring up some war or other in order that the people may require a leader." - Plato |