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Bill: Pastoral Beluzia
Details
Submitted by[?]: People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2173
Description[?]:
| Let us return Beluzia to its glory days of holistic splendor... |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy.
Old value:: The government denies subsidy assistance to farmers.
Current: The government subsidises the operations of low-income farming families.
Proposed: Agricultural crops which are considered beneficial to the enviroment or to the continued ecological safety of the state are subsidized.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:43:16, January 17, 2006 CET | From | Secular Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Pastoral Beluzia |
| Message | No socialism please. |
| Date | 09:52:41, January 17, 2006 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Pastoral Beluzia |
| Message | This is far from socialism. |
| Date | 06:22:10, January 18, 2006 CET | From | Secular Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Pastoral Beluzia |
| Message | Government intrusion into private business is socialism. |
| Date | 06:45:11, January 18, 2006 CET | From | Moderate Beluzians | To | Debating the Pastoral Beluzia |
| Message | Someone needs to buy you a dictionary. |
| Date | 06:54:47, January 19, 2006 CET | From | Secular Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Pastoral Beluzia |
| Message | Offer your definition of socialism then? And what political system would you place this bill under then? |
| Date | 06:56:26, January 19, 2006 CET | From | Secular Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Pastoral Beluzia |
| Message | And do you think (and why ) that government should be able to regulate a private business? By what right? Would your position change if you were the owner? |
| Date | 06:59:42, January 19, 2006 CET | From | Secular Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Pastoral Beluzia |
| Message | By the way, considered "beneficial to the environment" by whom? Who's environment? Why do they get to decide? What about the person who owns the land? Who supplies the "subsidized" money? At whose loss? Why is it moral in your opinion to take money from one group and arbitrarily hand it to another? |
| Date | 07:44:26, January 19, 2006 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Pastoral Beluzia |
| Message | I thought morality was objective to you? |
| Date | 12:17:09, January 19, 2006 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Pastoral Beluzia |
| Message | Look, this bills gives farmers subsidy $ (assumably supplied by taxes) for growing crops beneficial to the environment according to the department of agriculture. Thats simple enough, isn't it? I understand that some feel that all forms of economics short of laissez faire are socialism. If so, I'm a socialist. So what? If you like laissez faire so much, move to somalia. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 75 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 25 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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