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Bill: Devolved Health Policies Act

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Submitted by[?]: Reģionālā Koalīcija

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 3949

Description[?]:

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date01:03:02, December 07, 2015 CET
FromReģionālā Koalīcija
ToDebating the Devolved Health Policies Act
MessageOOC: I've left this in debate stage in case any other party supports any of these proposals. If you do let me know and I'll break it up in order to get it passed.

Date16:03:20, December 07, 2015 CET
FromLiberālā Savienība
ToDebating the Devolved Health Policies Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

We oppose all of these Articles, as these are all issues which need to be resolved at a national level.

Mikelis Skriveris
Leader of the Liberālā Savienība

Date16:10:22, December 07, 2015 CET
FromNacionālā Fronte
ToDebating the Devolved Health Policies Act
MessageMr Speaker,

We need a strong national government that can look after the people, if we left the regions they could have all sorts of varying and confusing policies that would be incoherent and incompatable with one another. Leave the important issues up to the national government and the local governments can deal with petty things such as roads and all that 'eco' crap.

Miervaldis Ozoliņš
Leader of the FN


Date16:35:18, December 07, 2015 CET
FromReģionālā Koalīcija
ToDebating the Devolved Health Policies Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

This will enable the regions to taylor policies to suit their populations' needs. It is foolish to believe that Dolgaria can be governed centrally on almost every issue.

Let's bring political power closer to the people.

Date16:41:49, December 07, 2015 CET
FromLiberālā Savienība
ToDebating the Devolved Health Policies Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

This is madness.

How can we have legal abortion in one town, then have it banned in the neighbouring town? How can we have legalised drugs in one county, and prohibition in another?...

This bil would result in ineffective and inconsistent law enforcement. In short, it would make a mockery of the law and result in anarchy. But perhaps that is what the KR want?

Mikelis Skriveris
Leader of the Liberālā Savienība

Date17:01:53, December 07, 2015 CET
FromReģionālā Koalīcija
ToDebating the Devolved Health Policies Act
MessageOOC: I have always interpreted "local governments" to refer to regional governments, not town governments, and I shall continue to do so.

IC: Mr. Speaker,

If, for example, people in Kirzon Valley want legalised drug use and people in Karzon don't then why shouldn't they be able to have individual policies tailored to their region in order to satisfy their citizens' demands? Why should all laws be set in the capital?

This bill will massively improve democracy, diversity and public satisfaction. The only threat devolution poses is to the Liberals' fat-cat bankrollers who will be less able to control the laws of the land.

Date18:19:06, December 07, 2015 CET
FromLiberālā Savienība
ToDebating the Devolved Health Policies Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

I request that the KR withdraw that last statement. It is a blatant lie to suggest our party's policies are determined by the wishes of "fat cat bankrollers". We have a very democratic, very inclusive, very accountable and very transparent system of party democracy when it comes to determining policy.

Mikelis Skriveris
Leader of the Liberālā Savienība

Date19:36:53, December 07, 2015 CET
FromReģionālā Koalīcija
ToDebating the Devolved Health Policies Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

It would be appreciated if the Liberals could answer our questions rather than ignoring us and engaging in petty arguments.

Why shouldn't there be regional variations in some policy areas in order to reflect the region's political preferences?

Why do the Liberals believe all laws should be made in the capital?

Date23:45:02, December 07, 2015 CET
FromLiberālā Savienība
ToDebating the Devolved Health Policies Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

As I explained previously, with all of these issues, it makes no sense to have one policy in one local government area and another policy in another local government area. All this does is sow confusion, create inconsistency and undermine the law enforcement process.

Mikelis Skriveris
Leader of the Liberālā Savienība

Date00:04:42, December 08, 2015 CET
FromReģionālā Koalīcija
ToDebating the Devolved Health Policies Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

The Liberals once again fail to provide any sort of argument other than vague, meaningless soundbites.

It makes perfect sense because it gives regions the ability to have laws that they actually want, not ones imposed by politicians who never step outside the capital.

There is no way this will cause confusion. In the most extreme case the five regions may all have different policies regarding a particular issue. It is not difficult to comprehend five laws.

Regarding the claim that it will "undermine the law enforcement process" - that is completely unfounded and doesn't even make sense.

Date00:19:14, December 08, 2015 CET
FromLiberālā Savienība
ToDebating the Devolved Health Policies Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

To give just one example, the fight against dangerous recreational drugs like cocaine would be gravely undermined if it was legalised in some parts of the country. It would be extremely difficult to stop the drugs from being smuggled across local government boundaries. In effect, a single local authority would have the power to undermine the drugs policy of the rest of the country.

Or take abortion as another example. Wouldn't it be quite ridiculous to pay a doctor to perform abortions in one part of the country, but to prosecute him and send him to prison for doing so in another part of the country?

This simply isn't practical. But then again, lack of practicability is rather a hallmark of KR policy...

Mikelis Skriveris
Leader of the Liberālā Savienība

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