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Bill: Formation of the Grand Army of the Republic (OOC: Military Outline)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Pro Lodamunese Unitarian Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 3997
Description[?]:
At the passage of this bill, we hereby form The Grand Army of the Democratic Republic of Lodamun, or The GADR. We confirm that the old way, http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=449321, is Null and Void. We confirm that in this new age we need a new lodamunese military, but more than that, we need a new lodamun. At the passage of the bill, lodamun would have a military presence equivalent to that of a superpower. Paul Adams Minister of Defense (OOC): The GADR will be compromised of these sections/units: (Sections are Command HQ's, Units are how groups within commands are distinguished.) -Democratic Republican Army (650,000) (Reserve: 450,000) -The Grand Fleet (125,000) (Airforce (Unit 1) and Navy (Unit 2) will work together under one section) (62,500 per unit) (Reserve: 75,000) (37,500 per unit) -Lodamese National Guard (will act as a reserve section) (100,000) (20,000 per Province) Total Lodamunese Manpower: 1,400,000 (Active Duty: 775,000) (Reserve Duty: 625,000) Estimated Total Cost 46,100,000,000 GADR ORGANIZATION: The Democractic Defense Council shall be the body advising the President on matters of national military, intelligence and security policy. The President, from henceforth will be Commander and Chief of the military. The president will have direct control over the military and this will allow for quick mobilization on a whim, on the presidents orders. The Council will include the following: -President (Commander and Chief) -Minister of Foreign Affairs -Minister of Defense -Minister of Justice -National Defense Adviser -Director of the Lodamese Secret Service -Director of the Lodamese National Intelligence Organization |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 18:52:49, February 18, 2016 CET | From | Pro Lodamunese Unitarian Party | To | Debating the Formation of the Grand Army of the Republic (OOC: Military Outline) |
Message | OOC: currently I'm still working on the bill this is just what it looks like right now |
Date | 09:34:08, February 19, 2016 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Formation of the Grand Army of the Republic (OOC: Military Outline) |
Message | Mr. Speaker, we are mostly concerned about the budget. We would like to know the opinion of the Finance Minister to assure ourselves how far this plan could be effective. August Defreyne Defence specialist for NWL |
Date | 19:06:13, February 19, 2016 CET | From | Pro Lodamunese Unitarian Party | To | Debating the Formation of the Grand Army of the Republic (OOC: Military Outline) |
Message | If your party would like to see some changes, or if you have some ideas on adding to this bill, we are more then happy to take your advice. Paul Adams Minister of Defense |
Date | 23:50:37, February 23, 2016 CET | From | Pro Lodamunese Unitarian Party | To | Debating the Formation of the Grand Army of the Republic (OOC: Military Outline) |
Message | We are officially done with adding anything else to the bill. The bill is complete as far as we are concerned. Paul Adams Minister of Defense |
Date | 13:52:52, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Formation of the Grand Army of the Republic (OOC: Military Outline) |
Message | Mr. Speaker, as much as we support a strong navy, we wonder if we really need that much personnel for the Lodamese Navy. We currently are limited in size, especially the number of ships we have, so 125000 seems exaggerated to us. We also wonder what the role of the aircraft section would be? Would the AC unit have a supportive role? Maybe the Minister of Defence wants to expand the Navy. We would like to hear some details about that. August Defreyne Defence specialist for NWL |
Date | 18:30:29, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Pro Lodamunese Unitarian Party | To | Debating the Formation of the Grand Army of the Republic (OOC: Military Outline) |
Message | 125000 is the grand total, 200000 if you count reserve, the navy and airforce both have about 62500, 100000 if you count reserve. As far as on the sea, yes unit 1 would support unit 2. However unit 1 isn't locked to unit 2 if we need one to go one place and the other do something else, we have that option. As aircraft can reach more targets on land than our ships can. By default, the airforce will support our navy, until farther instructions are given. Now on expanding the navy we would love to do so, But as you can see that total on the bill pretty large as is. Can lodamun handle it? Can lodamun handle what is already the estimated military budget? So if you or your party has a number in mind for the Grand Fleet i would be more than happy to take it and work with it and do some more calculating. Keep in mind the grand fleet consists of the airforce and navy. Paul Adams Minister of Defense |
Date | 05:53:37, March 01, 2016 CET | From | Pro Lodamunese Unitarian Party | To | Debating the Formation of the Grand Army of the Republic (OOC: Military Outline) |
Message | As it stands would there be support for this bill? Paul Adams Minister of Defense |
Date | 14:52:17, March 01, 2016 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Formation of the Grand Army of the Republic (OOC: Military Outline) |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Parties should employ paramilitaries from among their supporters. My party does not trust any "companies" and no party would. There should be no "companies" that are independent of the parties. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
Date | 14:54:06, March 01, 2016 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Formation of the Grand Army of the Republic (OOC: Military Outline) |
Message | OOC: I think we should split this bill. The OOC part is unrelated to the IC part. |
Date | 22:43:48, March 02, 2016 CET | From | Pro Lodamunese Unitarian Party | To | Debating the Formation of the Grand Army of the Republic (OOC: Military Outline) |
Message | OOC: if you refer to the paramilitary portion then I can understand so i will remove that from the bill |
Date | 17:00:14, March 07, 2016 CET | From | Pro Lodamunese Unitarian Party | To | Debating the Formation of the Grand Army of the Republic (OOC: Military Outline) |
Message | So we believe that plenty of time as gone by and we are going to bring this to a vote very soon. If you would like to say anything about this bill, now is the time. Paul Adams Minister of Defense |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 401 | ||||
no | Total Seats: 53 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 145 |
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