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Bill: Budget proposal of November 3988
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Right
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3989
Description[?]:
| The The Moderate Party propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better address the economic and social situation of the United Commonwealth of Luthori. |
Proposals
Article 1
| Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
| Head of Government | 200,000,000 LPD | 750,000 LPD | 750,000 LPD |
| Foreign Affairs | 2,550,000,000 LPD | 650,000,000 LPD | 650,000,000 LPD |
| Internal Affairs | 10,000,000,000 LPD | 3,800,000,000 LPD | 3,500,000,000 LPD |
| Finance | 1,500,000,000 LPD | 8,000,000,000 LPD | 8,000,000,000 LPD |
| Defence | 16,500,000,000 LPD | 3,000,000,000 LPD | 7,000,000,000 LPD |
| Justice | 6,000,000,000 LPD | 12,000,000,000 LPD | 12,000,000,000 LPD |
| Infrastructure and Transport | 12,000,000,000 LPD | 10,000,000,000 LPD | 10,000,000,000 LPD |
| Health and Social Services | 30,000,000,000 LPD | 10,000,000,000 LPD | 9,000,000,000 LPD |
| Education and Culture | 12,500,000,000 LPD | 15,000,000,000 LPD | 12,000,000,000 LPD |
| Science and Technology | 3,500,000,000 LPD | 4,500,000,000 LPD | 4,500,000,000 LPD |
| Food and Agriculture | 4,900,000,000 LPD | 200,000,000 LPD | 200,000,000 LPD |
| Environment and Tourism | 3,000,000,000 LPD | 150,000,000 LPD | 150,000,000 LPD |
| Trade and Industry | 3,500,000,000 LPD | 180,000,000 LPD | 180,000,000 LPD |
| Total | 106,150,000,000 LPD | 67,480,750,000 LPD | 67,180,750,000 LPD |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:21:06, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr Speaker We recently proposed a bill to increase defense spending but it was not nearly enough. Gemenebest van Narikaton en Darnussia/Gemeinwesen auf Narikaton und Darnussia. Our neighbor has recently laid proposals to expand their country. They have military ambitions and as their neighbor we need to be able to protect ourselves. The increases in defense spending was not nearly enough. The country in question has a growing nationalist party with world domination ambitions. They have a communist party as the second largest party who we may not know what they will do if they were to become the largest and get a majority. We need to increase our military to defend ourselves from a possible threat. We may need to increase the defense budget later on but for now we we need to slowly increase it. We have made some cuts in the the large state but that is necessary. We hope that the parlament approves this and will pass it. |
| Date | 15:04:53, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We cannot vote for a bill that cuts the education and culture budget. I yield David Sviekart HSP Chairman |
| Date | 15:34:59, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr Speaker We find it worrying that the HSP does not put the security of our nation above some minor budget cuts.. |
| Date | 16:32:19, February 25, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We have a large surplus, why are we cutting things? We're cutting people's education and health - but doubling the military? There is no need to cut anything to make room for military spending. 4 Billion LPD is not 'small'. Our children's education is more important than some fantasy-inspired fable of a war. Larissa Newton |
| Date | 16:51:48, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We agree with 3Right on this issue. It is pointless to have a surplus and yet cut education and culture funding. We are concerned about our safety which is why we have done more for the military than the Moderates in our Party's storied history. But, our nation is extremely safe and their is no pending war. We support increasing our military funding but it does not make sense to cut education. I yield Clare A. Palley HSP Whip |
| Date | 17:31:59, February 25, 2016 CET | From |  Centrist Alliance | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, May the Moderates please refrain from making up things? Yes we believe in a stronger military but not at the cost of our education. This is a really worrying sight to see a party willing to increase defence at the cost of education. Jeb Coleman Defence Candidate |
| Date | 19:09:04, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr Speaker we would ask the people opposing this to read the bloody budget! You are all looking very ill informed when you stand here and say that we have enough surplus to spend on our military! It's not nearly enough Amanda Millington minster of defense |
| Date | 19:32:13, February 25, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, But why cut education and health? There will be no wars, so do not dare to starve my children of education! Rhiannon Aurora ITRA (International Three-Right Association) Leader |
| Date | 19:48:52, February 25, 2016 CET | From | National Party of Luthori | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Perhaps the Moderates should learn the rules of Parliament before they continue to ignore tradition and propose budgets without the consent of the Finance Minister. We agreed with the previous budget, but refuse to even recognize this as being a legitimate proposal. It is the duty of the Finance Minister to propose a budget. I yield. Rt Hon. William Orangeheuser |
| Date | 19:49:50, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This is precisely why the unions affiliated with the HSP and LPU along with the businesses of 3Right are contemplating a strike. We demand the immediate resignation of the Finance Minister for proposing this bill or that he immediately propose a new budget. I yield Clare A. Palley HSP Chief Whip |
| Date | 19:57:57, February 25, 2016 CET | From | National Party of Luthori | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Furthermore why is Ms. Aurora speaking on behalf of the 3Right? Parliament voted strongly in censuring her, but here she stands among elected members of Parliament. How dare you even step foot inside this prestigious chamber! We have Defence ministers proposing budgets and censured politicians speaking in the Commons. What has become of Luthori? These sacred institutions are being turned upside down. I yield. Rt Hon. William Orangeheuser |
| Date | 20:11:32, February 25, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, 2 years have passed since the censure. I am not a member of parliament for 3Right, I am simply a representative of an international body. Rhiannon Aurora ITRA (International Three-Right Association) Leader |
| Date | 20:34:45, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr Speaker The finance minster has made no budget proposals and we need to act. If you don't like the bill then there is this radical thing you can do... Guess what? You can vote no. Make your case and don't go on strike and harm the nation. We are spending far too much in our opinion and budget cuts are needed. If everyone just calmed down and acted like adults them perhaps things would go better. I do hope debates in the future can be more... Civil and not cause problems. " Francis Urquhart leader of the moderate party |
| Date | 20:38:02, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, It is in the government's hands now. The Finance Minister should have proposed something, I agree completely, but this garbage you put before us is revolting. I yield Clare A. Palley HSP Whip |
| Date | 20:48:36, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr Speaker And instead of just voting it down you rally for a strike? Amanda Millington minster of defense |
| Date | 20:51:45, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, My Party and their Unions demand your resignation. You can placate them by doing just that. They need to make you acutely aware of how important education and culture funding is to them. I yield Clare A. Palley HSP Chief Whip |
| Date | 21:18:00, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr Speaker I will do no such thing! The unions have crossed the line when they demand to have a democratically elected minster resign. If they can not handle that we want to increase defense spending then perhaps they are in the wrong country! Here we have democracy for all no matter who they are. Well i guess we don't have that since we have several party's that is in the unions pockets. Amanda Millington minster of defense |
| Date | 21:24:40, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I should remind the Minister that she is standing on shaking ground when sh speaks of democracy, especially since many of the democratically elected MPs stand against her erroneous proposal. I Yield Clare A. Palley HSP Chief WHip |
| Date | 21:29:29, February 25, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the Budget proposal of November 3988 |
| Message | Mr Speaker,ยจ Here is the difference between the moderate party and the socialist party. They are free to vote down our budget proposal and to disagree with us. That is what a democracy is. Or have you forgotten that over the many years you represented the unions instead of the people? Amanda Millington minster of defense |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 36 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 464 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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