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Bill: Secularism in Luthori
Details
Submitted by[?]: Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 3999
Description[?]:
| We simply need secularism in Luthori. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Current: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state appoints the head and ministers of the state religion, but does not intervene otherwise.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: No religions are taxed.
Current: No religions are taxed.
Proposed: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Current: Any religion may set up a school, but they are strictly regulated.
Proposed: Any religion may set up a school, but they are strictly regulated.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:23:07, March 17, 2016 CET | From | Imperial Conservative Union (IA) | To | Debating the Secularism in Luthori |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Does the word "Holy" Luthori Empire mean anything to you? I yield. |
| Date | 03:47:29, March 17, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Secularism in Luthori |
| Message | "Mr. Speaker" "No, it really doesn't. I am an Atheist just like a growing number of Luthorians. I can't stand you people who disrespect simple rights and secularism. I was forced to pray in school, as well was Elizabeth and Bernie James, yet we are secularists, in terms of beliefs and faith. You are uncaring and blind imperialist scum." Vladimir Armstrong Leader of the LPU |
| Date | 04:20:31, March 17, 2016 CET | From | People's Libertarian Movement | To | Debating the Secularism in Luthori |
| Message | Mr. Speaker While the PLM agrees with the principles of a secular movement, we find the overall structure of this bill unacceptable. We cannot replace forced religious activities with forced secularism and government regulation of private religion. We'd support a bill that puts these decisions to the schools and people. I Yield. Nathaniel Jones, Head of the PLM |
| Date | 04:25:58, March 17, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Secularism in Luthori |
| Message | "Mr. Speaker" "We aren't limiting religious schools more then now, besides allowing all religions it's the same. And why should an atheist or non-Hosian student be made to pray in a public institution?" Vladimir Armstrong Leader of the LPU |
| Date | 04:33:36, March 17, 2016 CET | From | Imperial Conservative Union (IA) | To | Debating the Secularism in Luthori |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We don't disrespect the rights of atheist, why we have a voluntary State Church. If you don't want to believe in God, that is your choice. Yet we already know communist are daemons that come from hell, so you not believe in God will simply ensure you return to the pits from which you crawled out of. I yield. |
| Date | 04:38:43, March 17, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Secularism in Luthori |
| Message | Communist call out a unified "If God forgives, let him forgive being wrong!" |
| Date | 04:41:09, March 17, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Secularism in Luthori |
| Message | *Communist MPs |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 378 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 287 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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