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Bill: Nuovo Paese

Details

Submitted by[?]: Social Calvinist Unionist Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2176

Description[?]:

In uno sforzo portare i glories di fascismo a Luthoria, proponiamo i seguenti cambiamenti siamo fatti alle leggi del paese.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date02:58:04, January 24, 2006 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageHow's this?

Date02:59:51, January 24, 2006 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageHere's the tune to the Nat'l anthem, btw: http://www.capafresca.com/musica/storica/Fascismo%20-%20Giovinezza.mp3

Date03:18:47, January 24, 2006 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageCan we have some translations for articles one, four, and five?

Date03:32:06, January 24, 2006 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
Message4 is King of the Luthorians, and 5 is: "Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." You might not like that one, so I have another one: Me ne frego, literally "I rub myself about it," closer, in meaning, to "I don't give a damn".

1 Is a bit harder, and I had a translation but cannot find it. The name of the song is Giovinezza.

Date03:44:01, January 24, 2006 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageI would vote for this bill without said articles. I'm not too thrilled about fascism.

Date03:46:04, January 24, 2006 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageWhat said articles?

Date03:53:35, January 24, 2006 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageArticles one and five.

Date03:59:26, January 24, 2006 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageAll 1 it talks about is how awesome Luthori is. But if you're against it, I guess I'll have to find another nationalistic anthem....

And for 5, would you rather a slightly fascist motto (Viva la Morte, "Long live death (sacrifice)."), or "in the name of the Fatherland, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Amen"?

Date04:01:46, January 24, 2006 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageIn that case, keep article one, and your first alternative for article five is good.

Date04:04:48, January 24, 2006 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
Message'I don't give a damn"? =D

Date04:10:13, January 24, 2006 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageI edited the nat'l anthem; the first one had the habit of glorifying my party leader =D. I found a better version, which had more to do with the state.

Date04:17:29, January 24, 2006 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageI meant Viva la Morte, but if you want that motto, then go ahead.

Date04:37:22, January 24, 2006 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageOh really? Sweet. I like Viva la Morte.

Date04:39:58, January 24, 2006 CET
FromShuggoth Progressive Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageThe SPP is opposed to fascism, and will fight it in any form.

We are not as concerned about the national motto, song, etc, but are rather fond of the original pre-NPH versions.

We support the articles on religion, actually.

If you could divide these articles up into separate bills, you would get SPP support on the non-fascist ones.

Date04:46:12, January 24, 2006 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
Message(just for the record; I made all the pre-NPH stuff =D)

While we are saddened that the SPP will not accept such a simple bill as this, we will continue to leave this bill up for debate. We do not see what is wrong with this bill; all we are doing is creating a government that is class-less and has nothing to do with religion. By allying with one religion or another, we would polarize the state. Therefore, by leaving religion up to the individuals themselves, we can create peace (unless, of course, it is a religion that preaches the destruction of the state).

Date05:02:42, January 24, 2006 CET
FromShuggoth Progressive Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageActually I think I was looking at the wrong bill, as there is nothing terribly fascist here...my apologies.

The SPP does not object to this bill, though as a general principle we would like to restore the forms of the old Empire, minus any intolerance and bigotry, to allow the people to live in peace and prosperity. So allowing individual regions to practice their own religions, or not practice at all, etc.

Date08:35:41, January 24, 2006 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageWe oppose articles 6, 7, 8 and 9 and aren't too fussed about the others. This will never get 500 votes.

Date12:26:47, January 24, 2006 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageSo if I move the religious bills articles to another bill, It'll have a higher chance of passing?

Date13:08:49, January 24, 2006 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageI can't believe article 9 doesn't count as a constitutional change!

Date22:09:32, January 24, 2006 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageI didn't move them yet =P

Date14:36:10, January 25, 2006 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageOk, fine, support your opressive nation and make us outcasts to the world. These reforms could make us accepted all throughout the world! Not only that, we wouldn't be thought of as pansy christians anymore. I also made it so, if you guys got enough support, you guys could get back in power sooner. But nooooooooooo, you had to go "But we are t3h crazy christian fundies! We need to have our crazy Bishops and prayers!"

Date14:46:20, January 25, 2006 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageBetter warn you PNF, "t3h crazy christian fundies" have only eight less seats than we do, so it probably isn't the time to be insulting them. We might need them for constitutional changes.

Date15:05:36, January 25, 2006 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageLGP has a good point. Stop tearing our church and morality apart. We've already voted for the Human Dignity Bill and PNF's budget proposal and have introduced a bill to secularise The Archbishop of Oalapo's title. Before we do any more we need to see a stop to the attacks on our churches and morality.

Date19:00:25, January 25, 2006 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the Nuovo Paese
MessageI'm not attacking your churches; I'm preventing you from attacking those who DON'T go to your churches.

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Voting

Vote Seats
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Total Seats: 313

no
    

Total Seats: 371

abstain
 

Total Seats: 66


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