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Bill: Technology Support Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: League of Objectivists!
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2177
Description[?]:
| Restricting cloning research is an archaic law based on a medieval fear that a vengeful god will punish us. There is tremendous potential in cloning research; potential to cure diseases, reproduce body parts etc... Any abuse would of course be subject to criminal repercussions within our system of laws. Please allow the scientists to do their jobs and make for a better and healthier tomorrow! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards the cloning of human beings.
Old value:: Research in cloning technologies is legal, but regulated.
Current: Research in cloning technologies is legal, but regulated.
Proposed: Research in cloning technologies is not regulated.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:39:33, January 26, 2006 CET | From | Anarchista Kommunista Csapat | To | Debating the Technology Support Bill |
| Message | I'm sure that our comrades here are as progressive a bunch of thinkers as you are, if not more so. There is nothing morally objectionable about cloning, and regulation of it does not suggest that the government thinks there is. Things can be abused without being fundementally immoral. Case in point, the food industry. It is regulated for the public health, not because it is evil. If Endralonian socialists really were bio-techniphobic, wouldn't they just ban cloning? I think it is clear that your only objection to regulation of cloning is that it gives the public greater power over the actions of individuals. Well, if you haven't noticed by now, we are collectivists, and hence see that as a good thing. |
| Date | 20:40:42, January 26, 2006 CET | From |  Libertarian Socialists of Endralon | To | Debating the Technology Support Bill |
| Message | We have mixed feelings on such a bill as we must be very careful in ensuring that cloning cannot be used for authoritarian purposes. |
| Date | 21:12:16, January 26, 2006 CET | From | League of Objectivists! | To | Debating the Technology Support Bill |
| Message | Regulating cloning does indeed imply technophobia while avoiding the national backlash that outright banning would produce. The government is trying to have its cake and eat it too, and such a conflict is not optimal for anyone involved. It is painfully clear you seek power over the actions of individuals. However are you not also concerned with the overall health, life and welfare of your constituents? Regulating cloning risks stifling innovation and advancements. Deregulating may lead to curing incurable diseases, providing organs to save dying people or regenerating body parts for the handicap. All of which you very well could be denying the people because of your actions. Your basic decision in the matter comes down to what you value more: keeping Endalonians under your whip, or keeping Endalonians healthy and living longer, more satisfying lives. To the LSE: If by abuse you mean actions that may harm other citizens, the LOOs fully agree and point out that such actions are already punishable under current criminal laws. There is no fear of criminal abuse if cloning research is deregulated. |
| Date | 22:12:45, January 26, 2006 CET | From | Anarchista Kommunista Csapat | To | Debating the Technology Support Bill |
| Message | "Regulating cloning does indeed imply technophobia while avoiding the national backlash that outright banning would produce. The government is trying to have its cake and eat it too, and such a conflict is not optimal for anyone involved." You do not know that regulations in place apply any form of restrictions based on a backwards bio-ethics standard, do you. You are just assuming. I, and I think all of my Endralonian comrades would be against such restrictions. |
| Date | 00:00:21, January 27, 2006 CET | From | League of Objectivists! | To | Debating the Technology Support Bill |
| Message | First, I wish your Enralonian comrades would speak for themselves, and second if you would be against such restrictions... why have them? For a pro-technology nation, this is common sense. |
| Date | 05:18:28, January 27, 2006 CET | From | New Endralon Workers' Party | To | Debating the Technology Support Bill |
| Message | There are many ethical questions around the issue of cloning. I fail to see how regulating such a controversial industry to prevent abuse would prevent the benefits you listed. |
| Date | 07:43:25, January 27, 2006 CET | From | League of Objectivists! | To | Debating the Technology Support Bill |
| Message | Convoluted responses aren't answers. Name your ethical questions and your abuses and we'll deal with them. Any cloning abuse that we can think of is already covered under our criminal justice system. Regulation only serves to bloat the government and scare off new technologies. It is very amusing to us how you have enough confidence in the citizens to develop cloning technologies for you, yet feel they are too stupid to handle their own money. It is vicious and insulting behavior for a government. |
| Date | 21:26:57, January 27, 2006 CET | From | II / Newsnight Faction | To | Debating the Technology Support Bill |
| Message | Stupid proposal, voting for to stop "opinion corelations" from buggering me! |
| Date | 00:10:16, January 28, 2006 CET | From | Nihilist Fascist Collegiality | To | Debating the Technology Support Bill |
| Message | UNREGULATED CLONING? I am forced to question the sanity of the creator of this bill. Allowing unregulated cloning will institute far more chaos than every other bill we've voted on. I see it as an alternative. Ever see the movie 'The Island'? I suggest you watch it; it's actually fairly decent. I agree with the philosophy behind it - if a clone is kept mentally undeveloped, it can well be used as replacements. If it cannot think, is it truly human? We might even go so far as to create clone reinforcements for our army. I know what you're inevitably thinking, and here I digress - we need thinking soldiers. These are REAL CLONES of REAL PEOPLE, and as thus can think independently. They will not unthinkingly obey any command given them. It will protect our citizens. Imagine what we could do if we utilized all the best genes to create super soldiers. These soldiers would allow our own populace to live their lives in peace. Not that we'd eliminate the army as a career path, merely that clones would provide a solid base. Without families, the clones could be trained from conception in warfare. An effective tool and one I strongly support. |
| Date | 01:34:58, January 28, 2006 CET | From | League of Objectivists! | To | Debating the Technology Support Bill |
| Message | We've seen The Island and thought it was a good movie. What happened in that movie was criminal as it would be in our nation as well AS WE HAVE ITERATED AT EVERY TURN IN THIS DEBATE. Please read the proposal and the debate before you go off on unfounded points that have already been refuted. Again, regulation only serves to bloat the government and scare off new technologies. And we applaud the II Party for their shining commitment to principles.... laugh. At least the totalitarian scum stand up for their misguided beliefs. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 113 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 214 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 132 |
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