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Bill: Intelligence Reform Act II
Details
Submitted by[?]: Labour Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4060
Description[?]:
| The Labour Party believes that due to the fact that Kalistan has been in peacetime for decades now, we no longer need to maintain an intelligence agency. This development will encourage other nations to engage with us diplomatically and demonstrates that Kalistan is an outward-facing, progressive nation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Proposed: The nation maintains no intelligence agency.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:38:04, July 16, 2016 CET | From | Libertarian Democrats of Kalistan | To | Debating the Intelligence Reform Act II |
| Message | The DFA oppose this bill. We do not believe mass surveillance is the way forward, but limited government intelligence is beneficial overall. We feel the current law is sufficient. |
| Date | 14:44:04, July 16, 2016 CET | From | Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK) | To | Debating the Intelligence Reform Act II |
| Message | The SP will not support this change. Limiting conterintelligence to surveillance is one thing. But taking our listening posts down completely is quite another. |
| Date | 14:45:50, July 16, 2016 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Intelligence Reform Act II |
| Message | Kalistan has no need for an intelligence agency right now if we were to experience hostile relations with another neighbour then the intelligence agency could quite easily be re-formed. Similarly, the respective militias of the Labour Party, the Socialist Party and any other party which maintains a paramilitary that is presently unregistered could partake in intelligence gathering at short notice. |
| Date | 15:40:52, July 16, 2016 CET | From | Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK) | To | Debating the Intelligence Reform Act II |
| Message | We would make explicit- our vote against the Premier's bill does *not* signal lack of confidence in the Premier's Government. But the Foreign Minister, and the SP in General, feel that continued support for passive intelligence services is an important component for Kalistan's Defense, and prevention of surprise, in as much as this is possible, allows up to be prepared. |
| Date | 15:46:10, July 16, 2016 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Intelligence Reform Act II |
| Message | We understand the SP's position and why they have come to a different conclusion about this issue than we have. We simply feel more secure that Kalistan can cope without an intelligence agency in its current position. |
| Date | 17:25:05, July 16, 2016 CET | From | Kalistan Unionst Party (KUP) | To | Debating the Intelligence Reform Act II |
| Message | We'll support the Labour party's policy in light of many years of peace. W.Killams Leader of KPP |
| Date | 17:55:54, July 16, 2016 CET | From | The Conservative Independence Party | To | Debating the Intelligence Reform Act II |
| Message | This is a stupid proposal, we live in a dangerous world where anything could happen. I agree the intelligence agency needs reform but not on such a large scale. If this passes we will be the weak, small boy of terra, who is an easy target. We can never tell if there will be a bother war so it's a good idea to retain the service. Plus it helps us track international criminals and terrorists. It is not as simple as we haven't been to war in a while, the service has lots of other uses like helping the fight against terror, tracking criminals and monitoring unstable dictatorships. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 138 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 429 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 183 |
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