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Bill: Public decency bill

Details

Submitted by[?]: The Conservative Independence Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 4062

Description[?]:

A bill to stop indecent behaviour and to put a stop to things that might cause it.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date01:11:41, July 18, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageAll four of these proposals restrict freedom and we urgently plead with the CIP to stop their quest against a liberal, open and free society. We are hopeful that the Kalistani people will see these proposals the same way we do and reject them at the ballot box.

Date05:27:34, July 18, 2016 CET
FromSocialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK)
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageWe oppose.

Date12:15:07, July 18, 2016 CET
FromThe Conservative Independence Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageLet me explain why I have proposed these before people judge.
Some video games are not suitable for children, some include gory torture scenes and scenes wich a child may find upsetting. Parents may want to know what the recommended age is before purchasing.
Sexually explicit content should not be shown on TV but nudity is natural. This links on to article 3. We accept for cultural reasons people may wish to not wear clothes in public, an exception would obviously be made for these tribes or different cultures. However in our culture nudity is something that is allowed in private or on a beach, this is what it should be like. But now you don't know were to go without seeing someone naked, people must learn that sometimes their own safety and security matters more than public nudity.
And lastly, intercourse is something that should be private and not public. We agree most civil liberties are good and positive however there is a difference between liberties and carelessness.

Date14:03:13, July 18, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageIt is a parent's responsibility to decide what their child watches/does/plays not the government's. I can't believe that the CIP just suggested sexual intercourse isn't natural, it is perhaps the most natural action a human can perform. We see no damage to anybody of public nudity nor intercourse. These are unnecessary restrictions of individual liberty with no tangible benefits to anybody except the government, who will gain more control in people's lives.

Date14:11:54, July 18, 2016 CET
FromThe Conservative Independence Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageWe never suggested it wasn't natural but merely said that it isn't something anyone should be able to do on the streets of Kaliburg.
The parent would still, ultimately have the job of controlling what their child watches/plays but this would simply be an advisory service for parents. If they wanted to let the child have it they could buy it and give it to them.
And I'm sorry but the Labour Party seem to think that the government would gain something by stopping people having sex on the street. What, what on earth would the government gain?

Date14:14:13, July 18, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageGovernment would gain the ability to control where people have sex.

Date17:20:36, July 18, 2016 CET
FromThe Conservative Independence Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageIs that really a massive problem? People would be able to do it in their own homes and private property wich may I remind everyone, the Labour Party is more than happy to take away.
The CIP don't car who you do it with as long as you don't do it in front of others.
And honestly that is not benefiting the government financially or in any way. I repeat the question what would the government gain from this wich would negatively effect people?

Date19:16:17, July 18, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageWe are not willing to take away the right of people to have sex in their homes and private property- that is a lie and it is slanderous. We repeat the answer: the government would gain the ability to control where people have sex. They should not have that power and whilst there are parties which believe in freedom and liberty they won't gain that power.

Date21:54:49, July 18, 2016 CET
FromThe Conservative Independence Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageWe meant that the Labour Party is more than happy to take away private property, not the right to sex.

Date22:01:06, July 18, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageWe are not happy to take away private property, another lie.

Date22:12:02, July 18, 2016 CET
FromThe Conservative Independence Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageReally, what about the farmers land wich you are happy to take away and their right to deal with companies without government interference.

Date22:22:06, July 18, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageThat is not relevant to the Public decency bill if the CIP takes umbrage with the NAA then they should refer to the NAA bill to discuss this.

Date05:05:33, July 19, 2016 CET
FromSocialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK)
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessagePut it to a vote or withdraw the bill.

Date11:18:23, July 19, 2016 CET
FromThe Conservative Independence Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageWe will put this to a vote when we want to and not when we are told thank you very much.

Date14:21:03, July 19, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageIf the CIP refuses to move bills on which debate has concluded swiftly through the Assembly, we will interpret this as simply spamming the government with bills and would have to contact the relevant authorities to seek to end it.

Date23:33:01, July 19, 2016 CET
FromLibertarian Democrats of Kalistan
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageWe firmly disagree with how the coalition handled their response. None of the bills proposed by the CIP are 'spam'. These bills have all been in line with the CIP's politics and we support them to stay true to what the believe in - despite being different to the views of the DFA.

We disagree with Article 1, but would support this bill regardless.

Regards,

Lucia de Beloki
DFA Internal Affairs Spokesperson

Date23:48:42, July 19, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageWhen debate has ceased, a bill is put to a vote unless there is some reason why it should not (e.g. the deadline is after an election, the bill require a unanimous decision, it is a sticky etc.). The government was not happy that the proper process was being followed and that is why we took our course of action.

Date11:41:26, July 20, 2016 CET
FromThe Conservative Independence Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageHow is threatening the democratic system like SPoK have been doing the proper democratic system and leaving a bill in debate is an offender?
Either the constitution is mucked up or it's just the let.
I am inclined to believe it was the left.

Date13:17:17, July 20, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Public decency bill
MessageThe SPoK has not threatened the democratic system. They are perfectly entitled to activate their militia whenever they wish, as the Party Militias bill outlines. We know that the CIP is aware of this bill as we personally notified them of it. They can no longer plead ignorance!

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