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Bill: Limit Lawyer's Pay
Details
Submitted by[?]: LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2181
Description[?]:
| We propose that legal representation for all defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state, and that lawyer's fees are not based on whether they win a case or not. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government provision of legal aid to the accused.
Old value:: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Current: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Proposed: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:10:52, February 05, 2006 CET | From | Moderate Beluzians | To | Debating the Limit Lawyer's Pay |
| Message | Public defenders already maintain exagerated workloads. This would lesson the quality of defense council. |
| Date | 08:32:49, February 06, 2006 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Limit Lawyer's Pay |
| Message | The quality would be the same as the prosecution though. |
| Date | 02:10:16, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Moderate Beluzians | To | Debating the Limit Lawyer's Pay |
| Message | Nothing in the bills maintains that all prosecutors have to be employed or paid by the state. |
| Date | 06:03:47, February 07, 2006 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Limit Lawyer's Pay |
| Message | Prosecutors can only be employed be the state, as they are the only people who have jurisdiction in these matters. Besides, who else would they be employed by? |
| Date | 11:31:09, February 07, 2006 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Limit Lawyer's Pay |
| Message | By the People! |
| Date | 11:31:47, February 07, 2006 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Limit Lawyer's Pay |
| Message | How about allowing a direct Persecution of the People, By the People, For the People! |
| Date | 11:33:01, February 07, 2006 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Limit Lawyer's Pay |
| Message | Get those stuffed wigs out of the courts, their simply a wrench in the gears! Mob justice is time tested, speedy and thorough! |
| Date | 11:51:06, February 07, 2006 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Limit Lawyer's Pay |
| Message | But usually wrong. |
| Date | 14:01:06, February 07, 2006 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Limit Lawyer's Pay |
| Message | Kinda like you? But at least Mob justice has the Peoples support... |
| Date | 14:30:31, February 07, 2006 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Limit Lawyer's Pay |
| Message | Nope, I'm always right. |
| Date | 18:08:06, February 07, 2006 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Limit Lawyer's Pay |
| Message | LOL, you might want to re-read that, you said "always" when you clearly ment "never". |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 33 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 57 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 10 |
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