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Bill: The Pesticides Act of 4137

Details

Submitted by[?]: Populist Environmental Party (PEP)

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 4138

Description[?]:

UPDATE: The "omnibus package" has been reduced to the pesticides article. We will consider re-doing the omnibus package at a later date.

- Darius Hutcher, PEP Majority Leader

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:17:44, December 17, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the The Pesticides Act of 4137
MessageWe were voting in favour of the previous bill primarily on the basis of the POW Article. Without it, we would not support the legislation unless the second article in this bill was removed.

Jean-Baptiste Fabian, Labour Party General Secretary

Date20:21:29, December 17, 2016 CET
FromPopulist Environmental Party (PEP)
ToDebating the The Pesticides Act of 4137
MessageMr. Speaker,

The Peoples' Party does make a good point on the subject. By immediately releasing POWs would be endangering our civilians?

- Darius Hutcher, PEP Majority Leader

Date20:30:56, December 17, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the The Pesticides Act of 4137
MessageWhy should we expend resources catering for foreigners who have attempted to attack our nation? Regardless, we are not in war and we never plan to be.

Jean-Baptiste Fabian, Labour Party General Secretary

Date23:40:43, December 17, 2016 CET
FromPeoples Party
ToDebating the The Pesticides Act of 4137
MessageMr. General Secretary,

I believe that "catering" would be an overstatement. Those who threaten our people shall not receive benefits. They will be housed in sturdy barracks with three square meals. That is all. Humane treatment.

Either that or if we enter war, our armies will be forced to fight continuously, while those captured are treated with immediate freedom to reengage.

I only want Kalistani protection, and allowing POWs to be immediately released is a danger to our nation.

Lola Corie- Peoples Party Spokeswoman

Date23:45:20, December 17, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the The Pesticides Act of 4137
MessageHow will the cost of these barracks and food be covered? The Kalistani taxpayer is the only answer. The original proposal is both more cost-efficient and more humane. Recognising that many soldiers are forced to fight for their nation, there is no reason why we should deny them the freedom to return to their nation.

Jean-Baptiste Fabian, Labour Party General Secretary

Date02:18:51, December 18, 2016 CET
FromPeoples Party
ToDebating the The Pesticides Act of 4137
MessageHow are they forced to fight? If they are forced, would they not want to, perhaps, be integrated into Kalistani society? It is far-fetched, I can imagine. But think of this: WE do not force our soldiers. The Peoples Guard is made up of volunteers. And if we send them back, could they not be killed by those who force them to fight? It would be inhumane to send them home.

Lola Corie- Peoples Party Spokeswoman

Date04:39:48, December 18, 2016 CET
FromPopulist Environmental Party (PEP)
ToDebating the The Pesticides Act of 4137
MessageAdded a new proposal on eminent domain. I am still undecided on the topic of POWs. However, as I said earlier, if there are any other proposals you would like added please speak now.

- Darius Hutcher, PEP Majority Leader

Date11:16:34, December 18, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the The Pesticides Act of 4137
MessageWe absolutely oppose the proposal on eminent domain, how can we hope to improve our society at all if this is the case?

Many soldiers ARE forced to fight in times of war as a result of conscription, they do not have a choice.

Jean-Baptiste Fabian, Labour Party General Secretary

Date15:16:25, December 18, 2016 CET
FromPopulist Environmental Party (PEP)
ToDebating the The Pesticides Act of 4137
MessageHow does seizing private property improve our society?

- Darius Hutcher, PEP Majority Leader

Date15:38:11, December 18, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the The Pesticides Act of 4137
MessageBuilding infrastructure projects, protecting areas of cultural or environmental significance or mining natural resources to name a handful of the ways.

Jean-Baptiste Fabian, Labour Party General Secretary

Date16:03:01, December 18, 2016 CET
FromPeoples Party
ToDebating the The Pesticides Act of 4137
MessageWe would also be in favor of eminent domain. If the government treats the property owner fairly, there is no reason to not have it.

As to POWS, this is one issue that, perhaps, all parties will be divided on. However, at least we can agree on other issues.

Respectfully,

Lola Corie- Peoples Party Spokeswoman

Date17:56:27, December 18, 2016 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the The Pesticides Act of 4137
MessageWith the discussion thus far in mind, my personal recommendation is that the PEP focus this bill on the use of pesticides. That is an area in which we all agree and we should not allow other issues which we disagree upon to get in the way of that.

Jean-Baptiste Fabian, Labour Party General Secretary

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
     

Total Seats: 626

no
 

Total Seats: 0

abstain
   

Total Seats: 76


Random fact: The players in a nation have a collective responsibility to ensure their "Bills under debate" section is kept in good order. Bills which are irrelevant or have become irrelevant should be deleted. Deletion can be requested for bills proposed by inactive parties on the Bill Clearout Requests thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4363

Random quote: "The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes." - Winston Churchill

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