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Bill: Prohibition of Paramilitaries Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 4182
Description[?]:
| Political parties do not need to operate their own private armies. This is a recipe for violence and instability. We need a full-time, professional military instead. Sophie Juderías Leader of the Liberal Party |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National military policy.
Old value:: The government retains a part time, professional army, navy and air force in alignment with paramilitary groups
Current: The government retains a part time, professional army, navy and air force in alignment with paramilitary groups
Proposed: The nation retains a full time, professional army, navy and air force.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government's position on paramilitaries.
Old value:: Paramilitaries are allowed as part of each political party.
Current: Paramilitaries are allowed as part of each political party.
Proposed: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:07:56, March 16, 2017 CET | From | Kalistan People's Party | To | Debating the Prohibition of Paramilitaries Act |
| Message | We support |
| Date | 17:33:56, March 16, 2017 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Prohibition of Paramilitaries Act |
| Message | This is totally wrong and disrespectful. Valerie Appelmans Labour Party General Secretary |
| Date | 18:19:16, March 16, 2017 CET | From | New Democrats | To | Debating the Prohibition of Paramilitaries Act |
| Message | Paramilitaries as a part of each political party are longstanding traditions. Although the Democrats do not operate one, it would be disrespectful and wrong to make them illegal for parties that do. -- Claudia Scott, Spokeswoman |
| Date | 22:55:40, March 16, 2017 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the Prohibition of Paramilitaries Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The Honourable Lady is extraordinarily thin-skinned if she thinks we are disrespecting her by proposing that political parties should not be able to run their own private armies. We are not proposing to deny her party free speech or to restrict its political activities in anyway. We are simply asking them to follow the norm for constitutional democracies...ie. the state should have a monopoly on the legitimate use of force, and individual political groups should not be allowed to organise private armies. Sophie Juderías Leader of the Liberal Party |
| Date | 22:58:21, March 16, 2017 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Prohibition of Paramilitaries Act |
| Message | You are an extremely discourteous individual. I refer to this legislation as disrespectful because it calls the hundreds men and women who have died fighting for our country in the past centuries, 'a recipe for violence and instability'. How you can be so utterly clueless of the impact of your ill-considered words is beyond me. You should be ashamed. Valerie Appelmans Labour Party General Secretary |
| Date | 23:35:27, March 16, 2017 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the Prohibition of Paramilitaries Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Neither I nor party would dream of being disrespectful to our war dead, and that was certainly not my intention. All we are arguing is that the armed forces should be arranged in a different way to how they are at present and that private political armies should be dismantled. It seems the honourable lady would wish to deny us this right, which is rather sad, since this is the very freedom our war dead fought for. Freedom of speech is a fundamental and precious part of our liberty. Sophie Juderías Leader of the Liberal Party |
| Date | 11:19:05, March 17, 2017 CET | From | Kalistan People's Party | To | Debating the Prohibition of Paramilitaries Act |
| Message | I support |
| Date | 22:03:01, March 17, 2017 CET | From | Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK) | To | Debating the Prohibition of Paramilitaries Act |
| Message | We oppose this bill- Paramilitaries not only serve as auxiliaries to the National Standing Forces, but they also serve as an independent bulwark against fascism. Signed Frank Bennots, Socialist Party Speaker |
| Date | 22:05:24, March 17, 2017 CET | From | Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK) | To | Debating the Prohibition of Paramilitaries Act |
| Message | Comrade Juderias, We support you in your efforts to speak freely and openly. That is different from supporting this Bill. We can assure you, there will be no censorship if the SP has its way. Peace, Frank Bennots, Premier of the Republic, Speaker for the SP. |
| Date | 22:27:59, March 17, 2017 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Prohibition of Paramilitaries Act |
| Message | To be clear, there was no indication in my comments that you should not be allowed to make such disgusting remarks, just that I found them to be so. Valerie Appelmans Labour Party General Secretary |
| Date | 22:43:06, March 17, 2017 CET | From | New Democrats | To | Debating the Prohibition of Paramilitaries Act |
| Message | I will refer the Premier to my earlier comments: "The censure was proposed in condemnation of Ms. Juderías' remarks, not because of her opposition to the law. Additionally, we were not and are not looking to censor anyone's right to free speech (no matter how appalling or offensive remarks may be, freedom of speech should always be protected), but simply looking to condemn the offensive remarks in question." The Democrats will always fight for the rights of all to express themselves freely, even if remarks are taken offensively, like those of Ms. Juderías. While we did propose a condemnation/censure in front of this assembly, we never sought to censor her right to speak (including on this same issue), or the right of anyone to speak, for that matter. -- Claudia Scott, Democratic Spokeswoman |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 161 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 505 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 84 |
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