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Bill: Withdrawal from Treaty
Details
Submitted by[?]: Radikale Folkeparti
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2186
Description[?]:
We are strictly isolationist and see little point in being a member of this alliance. |
Proposals
Article 1
Withdraw from the Global Emancipation Treaty.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 22:28:03, February 13, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | No, the slavery is a crime against humanity. All humans are born free. |
Date | 13:18:31, February 14, 2006 CET | From | Statsråd Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | We must get ourselves out of this ridiculous treaty. |
Date | 18:38:22, February 14, 2006 CET | From | Northern Light | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | Slavery is just wrong. I cannot understand why the Radicals, who are for civil liberties, want to enslave our citizens... |
Date | 18:41:58, February 14, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | We too. |
Date | 19:01:37, February 14, 2006 CET | From | Radikale Folkeparti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | NL: Where does it say the Radikales are in favour of slavery? Where does it say the Radikales want to enslave Kazulians? It doesn't, so don't say things that hurt our party, we are against slavery, we are also against this meaningless treaty. |
Date | 19:05:26, February 14, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | ...which assures that in our country will not be slavery. |
Date | 20:31:21, February 14, 2006 CET | From | Radikale Folkeparti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | So, point out the bit where I want to enslave Kazulians? |
Date | 20:51:09, February 14, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | Since the treaty is for no permit the slavery, if you want to remove it you are for slavery. |
Date | 20:52:32, February 14, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | On the other side, if you think that slavery should be outlawed, it is that this treaty grants. |
Date | 20:52:45, February 14, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | * what |
Date | 00:22:06, February 15, 2006 CET | From | Radikale Folkeparti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | SL, that doesn't make sense. If I removed this bill and then proposed to introduce slavery, what you say makes sense. However withrawing from this treaty does not introduce slavery, so what you say is nonsense. This treaty does not 'grant' outlawing of slavery, slavery was outlawed before this Treaty was entered into. |
Date | 11:25:28, February 15, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | This treaty grants that slavery can not be reintroduce on our nation. (OOC: it bounds the proposal of slavery and you can't repropose the slavery option). If you don't want to have slavery, this is what this treaty makes. Repeal it and be for emancipation is a nonsense. |
Date | 12:16:58, February 15, 2006 CET | From | Konservativ Monarkistpartiet | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | No its not nonsense, perhaps the RP don't like Treaties, and would rather national governments had the final say. |
Date | 13:48:23, February 15, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | That was what happened when we had signed it, with a 2/3 majority. |
Date | 13:57:11, February 15, 2006 CET | From | Radikale Folkeparti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | And now we are unsigning it, that doesn't mean that we favour slavery though. |
Date | 14:00:19, February 15, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | Since this action open the possibility to introduce it, it is very suspect. |
Date | 14:05:48, February 15, 2006 CET | From | Radikale Folkeparti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | Well, you allow the passage of the bill that will allow anyone to propose a cabinet, and I'll bring this down. |
Date | 14:10:16, February 15, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | As already said, we not tolerate diktact. Do ut des is not on our style. |
Date | 14:26:27, February 15, 2006 CET | From | Radikale Folkeparti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | So you are against compromise? Fascist. |
Date | 19:03:15, February 15, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | Fascist is a party that want to constrict other parties to do what it wants, and it seems that there is not us. |
Date | 19:37:07, February 15, 2006 CET | From | Radikale Folkeparti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | But you are keeping the creation a cabinet in the hands of the HoS? Is that not constriction? |
Date | 19:39:07, February 15, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | No, it is only a state system. Not so incredible: in this way the creation of a dictatorship is more difficult. |
Date | 19:40:47, February 15, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | OOC: I'm bored about this discussion. I think that it is best as regime system, also on RL. Then, I will be ever against a changement of it. |
Date | 19:42:22, February 15, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | Also, we have never said: "Vote yes on this or we...". This is the difference between us and RP. |
Date | 11:25:54, February 16, 2006 CET | From | Radikale Folkeparti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | Yes, you obviously didn't care enough about slavery to do anything you could to stop it. |
Date | 11:59:26, February 16, 2006 CET | From | KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti | To | Debating the Withdrawal from Treaty |
Message | Actually it seems that WE have voted against it... |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 122 | |||||
no | Total Seats: 79 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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