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Bill: Condemnation of the AFF!
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Reform Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2186
Description[?]:
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:52:36, February 14, 2006 CET |
From | Social Reform Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the AFF! | | Message | We have a parliament for a reason! The AFF should have done its battling through legislature, not through terrorism. These actions against peace are totally unacceptable, Deltarians or not. |
| Date | 21:56:58, February 14, 2006 CET |
From | Capitalism Now! Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the AFF! | | Message | We have been battling through legislature for years! We were getting nowhere! Drastic action had to be taken!
You are not helping either SRP, you cannot see that what the ICP is doing is much worse than what i am doing. |
| Date | 22:00:41, February 14, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the AFF! | | Message | What? We inquired about mercenaries, we did not invite them. And if you check the press releases by the Defence Ministry (on the forum) you will see that we are prepared to blast Deltaria out of the waters if they come any closer. Do not make this a two front war. |
| Date | 23:23:53, February 14, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the AFF! | | Message | Misguided, yes, but resort to terrorism because of it? I thought pacifist parties such as you and DSP would go beyond politics and vote against a party that resorts to terrorism, however noble the cause. |
| Date | 23:25:57, February 14, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the AFF! | | Message | Terrorism is never the solution. The Alorian government does not negotiate with terrorists. We need to end this now before they set a precident of violence after a group loses power. It's bound to happen eventually and the reaction separates a true democratic government from a group of two or more oligarchies battling it out. |
| Date | 00:00:23, February 15, 2006 CET |
From |  Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the AFF! | | Message | Then you endorse the increasing antagonisms then. That is the result of polarisaton. We would no longer oppose the AC if the AC didn't exist. We would encourage power to be shared (and re-shared) as the electorate sees fit (ie, after elections.). |
| Date | 00:03:58, February 15, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the AFF! | | Message | Still, it would be giving into terrorists. It would be sending a message to all Alorians that they can get their will voiced not by voting but by taking a bunch of hostages. Is that really a message we want to spread? |
| Date | 00:09:39, February 15, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the AFF! | | Message | P.S. That basically means that all chances of disbanding coalitions in recent history are pretty much gone once AFF started using terrorism as a tool. |
| Date | 03:07:14, February 15, 2006 CET |
From | Social Reform Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the AFF! | | Message | "We certainly condemn the terrorism, but we won't condemn the cause."
This isn't about the cause. This is about condemn the action. As you will see in the bill description, I do not talk about condemning their cause at all, but only the use of these actions to promote their cause. |
| Date | 03:37:43, February 15, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the AFF! | | Message | "Just because terrorists want you to do somthing doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. That is a pathetic excuse."
Yes it does, we do not negotiate with terrorists. It sends a bad message. Unless there is another major reason why to...
"We have released ALL the hostages."
That's good. You're now back up to 2 out of 10 on the trust scale. ;)
"Too right it's a pathetic excuse."
Like I said, unless there is another major reason why to answer the demands of terrorism, answering them will lead to more terrorism. For one, the Aloria Coalition has no need to disband. You are just jealous that it works.
"This isn't about the cause. This is about condemn the action. As you will see in the bill description, I do not talk about condemning their cause at all, but only the use of these actions to promote their cause."
Amen. |
| Date | 12:21:18, February 15, 2006 CET |
From | Social Reform Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the AFF! | | Message | "And if AFF are 2/10 on trust, where the hell are you two? Your actions could've wiped Aloria off the map!"
Please, give us one example of where the SRP almost "wiped Aloria off the map."
I kindly ask the AAC members to reconsider their votes. You're giving the message that it is okay to use terrorism in order to further your cause, rather than politcs! I think you're not voting yes just to spite the ICP, which is completely insane. If this were the ICP being condemned, you'd all be voting yes, wouldn't you? |
| Date | 13:11:31, February 15, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the AFF! | | Message | SRP, I was condemned, so I know it. I am astonished at the partisonship of AFF, DSP, AGSP, and FCP. They're supposed to be the "politically independent" coalition and yet ACers act more independently. |
| Date | 15:14:39, February 15, 2006 CET |
From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the AFF! | | Message | Terrorism doesn't need condemnation, as it is already against the law. By supporting the ICP, the SRP gave them the power to come very close to having Aloria invaded. |
| Date | 15:42:26, February 15, 2006 CET |
From | Fair Capitalism Party | To | Debating the Condemnation of the AFF! | | Message | We would have voted yes, but that would be giving in to the terrorists at the iCP, which they themselves have shown should not be done. |
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| yes | Total Seats: 347 |
| no | Total Seats: 211 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 42 |
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