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Bill: Dorvik's future
Details
Submitted by[?]: Konservative und Libertäre Partei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 4258
Description[?]:
| The children are our future, let's help them get there. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Education for children under adult age.
Old value:: Education is compulsory and has to happen at school.
Current: Education is compulsory and has to happen at school.
Proposed: Education is compulsory, but home schooling is permitted.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Current: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Proposed: The government subsidizes higher education tuition to a certain amount, the rest is covered by the individual students. This includes scholarship programs.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change National Curriculum
Old value:: There is a National Curriculum which all schools are obliged to follow.
Current: There is a National Curriculum which all schools are obliged to follow.
Proposed: There is no National Curriculum; the curriculum is set by the schools themselves.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Singing the national anthem in schools.
Old value:: Children are made to sing the national anthem at the commencement of school each day.
Current: Children are made to sing the national anthem at the commencement of school each day.
Proposed: Children are not made to sing the national anthem, but are required to show respect when it is played at the commencement of school each day.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Sexual education in schools.
Old value:: Schools have an obligation to give sexual education at some point in puberty, but individual students have an opt-out option.
Current: Schools have an obligation to give sexual education at some point in puberty, but individual students have an opt-out option.
Proposed: Schools have an obligation to give sexual education at some point in puberty.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:59:28, August 14, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Dorvik's future |
| Message | President, This bill hurts children, it does not help them. Curriculums set by individual schools would mean that schools with less funding and less skilled teachers will have extraordinarily worse student results. Home schooling also means that students can get considerably worse grades than each other based on environmental factors, and not on their effort. Furthermore, standing up straight to the national anthem has no kind of barring on the quality of education. Lastly, cutting student tuition means that only richer students can comfortably attend college. Poorer students may even be put off colleges, or will have to leave part of the way through. This bill is awful for students. It just frees up money we don't need to save. I imagine the Libertarians would put that into tax cuts for the wealthy. Christine Weinstock NPU Leader |
| Date | 22:27:44, August 16, 2017 CET | From | Konservative und Libertäre Partei | To | Debating the Dorvik's future |
| Message | Nonsensical lies, this wouldn't hurt children. Giving students and schools more freedom over subjects has many benefits and would unleash children's potential and capabilities. We are a free country and it should be 100% your choice if you wish to sing or to pay respect to the anthem when played at school. Singing the anthem should be a joy and a celebration and not a chore as it has become in school. There are many other ways to teach children to love their nation than to sing the anthem because they are forced. Cutting tution means that students can be intergrated into adult life without sliding into complete debt. It does free up money which we will actually use to cut everyone's taxes, and yes not just the rich. Because unlike the NPU we don't resort to wealth discrimination and care about everyone, this policy will mean those who need funding the most will get it. Please don't try to lie again, we aren't going to favour the rich over the poor or the poor over the rich like you have done. We are going to help get everyone good education without taking it from the taxpayer. |
| Date | 22:53:56, August 16, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Dorvik's future |
| Message | President, The Libertarians are wrong beyond belief. This gives students the freedom to be dumb, and the schools the freedom to make them dumb. We are a free country, so it should be your choice whether you sing it or not. But why is not your choice to 'show respect'? That's less libertarian than our position. You third point is utterly nonsensical. Making them actually have student debt means they slide into complete debt? What a load of utter crap. You want them to actually be able to accumulate student debt. We don't need more money, we have a balanced budget. Your attempt to paint us as a lefty party when we are the most right-wing party economically that has held seats in this country for many decades is facile and is failing. 'Wealth discrimination' is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard uttered in this building. What a load of crap. How do you want people all people to get a good education when poorer schools will have worse curriculum? When poorer students will not be able to afford college? The Libertarians are a joke, have been a joke, are being a joke, will be a joke, willing be being a joke, has been being a joke and all other tenses of 'to be a joke' that a human language can permit me to express. I didn't think a party so utterly pathetic could exist. How on God's green earth do you manage to make everything you say so wrong? Christine Weinstock NPU Leader |
| Date | 13:56:10, August 17, 2017 CET | From | Konservative und Libertäre Partei | To | Debating the Dorvik's future |
| Message | First of all I want to condemn Christine's limited variety of language, swearing isn't exactly parliamentary standards. It's actually quite funny, the NPU seem to believe that schools want to make people dumb if they're making a profit. What? In no circumstance would the education sector would just be so silly to stop doing their jobs? . I don't get why your so opposed to not singing the anthem, yeah sure if your in the military, or government patriotism is excellent but come on, in school, they're their for an education not a political rally. What's to say poorer schools would have a worse curriculum, under these plans, there would be no more poorer schools! Everyone would donate some money to get a better education everywhere. I am sorry to hear that the only good argument the NPU can come up with is that we're a joke when we're clearly not, we are serious and determined now please stop making up god awful lies for your own gain! |
| Date | 18:05:54, August 17, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the Dorvik's future |
| Message | President, Focus on me saying 'crap', before addressing my points. Wow. That's not what we said at all. We didn't say that schools want to make people dumb. If they have limited resources they will not be able to craft a good enough curriculum. I don't think you got the other point at all. I don't think you should be forced to sing the anthem. That's one point I agree with you on. 'No more poorer schools'? That's a somewhat spurious claim. We have little else to say to the KLP. They're clearly deluges. Christine Weinstock NPU Leader Christine Weinstock NPU Leader |
| Date | 11:34:06, August 18, 2017 CET | From | Konservative und Libertäre Partei | To | Debating the Dorvik's future |
| Message | Well, it's clear we aren't getting anywhere with this debate as the NPU continue to make things up and lie as usual. The NPU can't make up a good argument so what do they do? Attack us as deluges. If you just look at the proposals more deeply then I'm sure we would agree on something. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 49 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 382 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 168 |
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| Random quote: "Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred." - Martin Luther King Jr. |