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Bill: Sensible migration policy
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kalistan National Front
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4339
Description[?]:
| Article one: Immigrants will only be permitted to enter Kalistan after they have passed a test. The test will ask questions on Kalistani culture and language. The test can be taken three times and will be easy to learn. Article two: Immigrants that do not pass the test thrice will be given classes on Kalistani culture, language and customs. The course will last six weeks and during this period immigrants will be able to reside in designated areas which they are free to leave but not move out of until they have passed the test. Article three: Immigration will be capped at 200,000 a year. Article four: Immigration will only be permitted from countries free from war and disease. If one wants to enter the nation from a country like this then they must apply for refugee status. Article five: If the country needs more doctors then doctors will be given priority. If the country needs manual labour then those willing to do manual labour will be prioritised. Article six: Economic migrants will be limited to staying for five years they can apply for more if they feel the need and the country feels the need. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:03:03, January 21, 2018 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the Sensible migration policy |
| Message | Ok, I'm convinced this isn't the NUP. Broken English is fixed. |
| Date | 01:04:20, January 21, 2018 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the Sensible migration policy |
| Message | Oh fuck, sorry, I thought is said KNP. |
| Date | 12:15:38, January 21, 2018 CET | From | Kalistan National Front | To | Debating the Sensible migration policy |
| Message | I was a bit confused for a moment lol. |
| Date | 18:37:03, January 21, 2018 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the Sensible migration policy |
| Message | We support, but we'd also like to know why immigrants from countries at war would be barred? We'd like to support refugees, not bar them. |
| Date | 19:40:32, January 21, 2018 CET | From | Kalistan National Front | To | Debating the Sensible migration policy |
| Message | First of all we aren’t suggesting a refugee ban of any sort. But we believe that there are people who don’t believe in Kalistan’s best interests are more likely to come from war torn countries. War torn countries are more likely to provide no legal papers for these people and fail to provide their criminal records as they simply don’t exist. Immigrants from war torn nations are less likely to have educationand therefore not pass the test. |
| Date | 20:11:19, January 21, 2018 CET | From | Progress Party—The Greens | To | Debating the Sensible migration policy |
| Message | We do not support this. This violates our party’s core value of Openness to the world. We are particularly concerned about the rather low immigration cap, the ban on immigrants from war-torn countries, and the differential treatment of immigrants based on why they arrive here. Kalistan’s rich heritage and tradition of diversity means we should continue to remain open to the world. — Martina Gonzalez, Leader of the Opposition, Leader of the Progress Party—The Greens |
| Date | 00:03:31, January 22, 2018 CET | From | Kalistan National Front | To | Debating the Sensible migration policy |
| Message | This isn’t about closing Kalistan off from the world, it’s about creating a system that works for everyone. The reality is we can’t just let everyone in without checks, people who could carry disease, have radical views or who are going to be a burden on the government. The facts are that migrants need jobs, this means less jobs, cars, this means more cars on the roads and more traffic, healthcare which means beds will be taken up, education, which means that those born here are losing out. However migration has positive effects, but this must be maintained at a sustainable number, such as 50,000 per year. This 50,000 will be able to recieve the best of Kalistan with the least damage being done. Please support. It isn’t as evil and draconian as one may think. It isn’t closed minded to be concerned about immigration as it can be dangerous. This bill just limits the effects and brings migration to sensible numbers which we can control. |
| Date | 03:01:19, January 22, 2018 CET | From | Progress Party—The Greens | To | Debating the Sensible migration policy |
| Message | We completely understand your concerns and we aren’t calling for us to fling open our borders and just let anyone and everyone in without any form of regulation. Some of the particulars of this bill just do not sit well with us. A starting point would be expanding the number of immigrants allowed in; 50,000 per year would constitute a 0.005% of our total population currently, which seems to us to be excessively restrictive. Furthermore, as far as the jobs issue goes, we would like to point out that immigrants create new jobs in their consumption of products in Kalistan. We will consider the proposal further but hope there is latitude for negotiation on your part too. |
| Date | 03:01:57, January 22, 2018 CET | From | Progress Party—The Greens | To | Debating the Sensible migration policy |
| Message | *0.05%, not 0.005%, my bad |
| Date | 18:03:36, January 22, 2018 CET | From | Kalistan National Front | To | Debating the Sensible migration policy |
| Message | First of all I would like to thank the progress party for their co operation and state that it means a lot to us and the people who are effected by mass immigration. What number would you settle with? We will happily change in exchane for this passing. |
| Date | 23:31:21, January 23, 2018 CET | From | Progress Party—The Greens | To | Debating the Sensible migration policy |
| Message | Given the raising of the cap we will support this for now. We would like to offer a future amendment that people from war-torn countries can still immigrants here (not necessarily as refugees) but, in a compromise, with more security precheck. |
| Date | 23:32:54, January 23, 2018 CET | From | Progress Party—The Greens | To | Debating the Sensible migration policy |
| Message | We would also like legislation clarifying the definition of “economic migrants” and if this is a separate immigration class or not. Will they ever be eligible for permanent residency and eventually citizenship or will they continually be in limbo every five years? |
| Date | 21:44:10, January 24, 2018 CET | From | Kalistan National Front | To | Debating the Sensible migration policy |
| Message | In reality we couldn’t keep people in limbo every five years it wouldn’t be cost effective and do nobody any good. So in a bill we will outline later we will define economic migrants and a policy concerning them. We imagine that economic migrants would have to be given a status of permenant residency if they are needed, ie nurses, soldiers etc. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 750 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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