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Bill: Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech
Details
Submitted by[?]: Luthori Workers' Committee
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 4360
Description[?]:
| A Cabinet proposal made up of parties committed to expanding freedom of speech in Luthori. |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Luthori Workers' Committee
Article 2
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Luthori Workers' Committee
Article 3
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Royalist Council on Classical Liberalism
Article 4
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Royalist Council on Classical Liberalism
Article 5
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Royalist Council on Classical Liberalism
Article 6
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Royalist Council on Classical Liberalism
Article 7
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Luthori Workers' Committee
Article 8
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Luthori Workers' Committee
Article 9
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Luthori Workers' Committee
Article 10
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Royalist Council on Classical Liberalism
Article 11
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Luthori Workers' Committee
Article 12
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Royalist Council on Classical Liberalism
Article 13
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Royalist Council on Classical Liberalism
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:41:41, March 08, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, It is telling that the Committee has chosen to adopt the Red Rose as their symbol - a symbol of opposition to Luthori and the Luthorian people. I yield. Andrew Carter-Jones MID Minister of Foreign Affairs MID for Lanton Common |
| Date | 00:29:20, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Luthori Workers' Committee | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | Could one of the ushers please escort this gentleman from the public gallery, he appears to be rather confused. An aide has informed me he was outside the Fish Market in Fort William this morning waving around a rule book and claiming to be the Staatsminister of Hulstria. Fortunately the Health and Social Wellbeing proposals set out in our manifesto will help people in his situation address their needs in a supportive and respectful environment. Helen Jackson-Owen Luthori Workers' Committee |
| Date | 01:33:23, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, It is disheartening that the honourable member continues with their slander, although claiming members of the opposition are mentally incapable is a change from claiming they are foreigners attempting to subvert Luthori. Surely one who proclaims themselves as fighting for the disadvantaged should use the full name of Mikuni-Hulstria? I yield. Andrew Carter-Jones MID MID for Lanton Common |
| Date | 01:46:59, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Luthori Workers' Committee | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | It appears I misspoke, this morning he was waving around a rule book and claiming to be the Staatsminister of Mikuni-Hulstria. If his disruptive actions are connected to the tactics other parties, let them account for them because the facility the allows public gallery should not be abused in this way. Helen Jackson-Owen Luthori Workers' Committee |
| Date | 12:08:33, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The honourable member would expel from this chamber members of opposing parties who have served Luthori faithfully? I yield. Andrew Carter-Jones MID MID for Lanton Common |
| Date | 13:18:51, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Luthori Workers' Committee | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | The gentleman appears to be labouring under the misapprehension that he is an elected representative. The public gallery serves as a facility for observing the legislative process, not as a space for public spectacle. His tiresome attempts to disrupt the democratic process will fail and his attempt to influence the vote of the Royalist Council on Classical Liberalism with regards to this Bill will fail. Helen Jackson-Owen Luthori Workers' Committee |
| Date | 13:50:36, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Over here, please - I sit on these benches alongside my colleagues. It is unsurprising that the extreme left wishes to purge all opposition to their disastrous schemes. I yield. Andrew Carter-Jones MID MID for Lanton Common |
| Date | 14:47:29, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Luthori Workers' Committee | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | Tiresome. You are not claiming to be Minister of Foreign Affairs anymore, progress of a kind. |
| Date | 15:15:22, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, My more than capable colleague, Prince Aldred, is the Minister of Foreign Affairs. I loyally served in that role for a decade as his predecessor, before returning to the backbenches. I have never claimed otherwise. I yield. Andrew Carter-Jones MID MID for Lanton Common |
| Date | 15:24:32, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Luthori Workers' Committee | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | 0 votes, 0 seats, 0 humour, 0 memory. |
| Date | 16:06:15, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | If you want to go OOC, we can do that. Nobody other than you has a problem with me continuing to comment. I don't know where this started - because I told you republican parties were banned under a law that got 2/3 of the vote? It was already listed in the Luthori RP Laws bill, as Chasekarlo has already told you. Where's the humour? So far all you've done that could be considered roleplay is dredge OOC matters into IC. Memory? I accidentally listed it. |
| Date | 16:59:27, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Luthori Workers' Committee | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | Yes, let’s go full OOC. Yes, I do have a problem with your trolling, because that’s what it is, it is not RP. It is not even amusing trolling. There is no RP value in an inactive party claiming they have a character who is Foreign Minister or that they have backbench MPs. Whether you accidentally claimed your character was Foreign Minister only you know, but given you did it twice on another Bill I suspect you used the title to try to give the false impression you were an active player. Especially given your party name is very similar to 2 other active parties. You stopped using it only after I made clear in an IC message that I knew you were an inactive player. I am an active player here, you are not. I do not appreciate or want your comments. You have your account in Hulstria, you can post all the messages you like in that nation. You do know when this started, because you started it. You are commenting on my Bills (and only my Bills), not the other way round. I have initiated no contact with you. You are doing this because you disliked the General Strike Bill I proposed. A bill which I did not vote in favour of, incidentally, therefore not breaking your RP law. And yet you are continuing to argue about it. |
| Date | 17:46:28, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | How on earth is it trolling? While I was an active party I RPed as being a faction of a party along with the Royalist and Moderate factions. Again, nobody has shown any opposition to me continuing to comment other than you. I continued to use it while I was still in the cabinet. I stopped using it when a new cabinet proposal was passed. Yes, I am currently in Hulstria. Hulstria has a long history of being connected with Luthori, and I am currently working to restore those links while I am there. If any other party was to propose these bills in Luthori, I would comment on them. |
| Date | 20:49:26, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Luthori Workers' Committee | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | OOC: Perhaps no one else has shown any opposition to you commenting, because you are only commenting to me. 100% of your comments thus far have been opposed by the recipient. Further, you didn't stop using it after you left cabinet, as all evidence shows. Every time you have initiated contact with me you have claimed to have a character who is the Foreign Minister. You know this, so I don’t know why you are claiming otherwise. As far as I am concerned, you are inactive and you should stay inactive up until the that status changes. |
| Date | 21:06:32, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | I'm sure you can ask. Comments are public. There was no scheme to convince you into thinking I was an active player through any such thing. Any time I used the Foreign Minister title while commenting it was by accident after I had copy-pasted the format from past bills. Again, I'm sure you can ask the others for their thoughts. |
| Date | 21:17:58, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Luthori Workers' Committee | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | Accidents happen in threes apparently. Other players don't have to publicly comment if they don't want to. You have claimed they support you, you will notice I have not asked you to show that. I oppose your participation in Bills created for active players to vote on. As a non active player you have not been invited to participate. If you want to create another RP Bill to challenge that, go ahead. |
| Date | 21:24:53, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | You've never made a mistake pasting a message? I haven't claimed they support me. |
| Date | 21:26:43, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Luthori Workers' Committee | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | Not the same mistake 3 times over more than 1 Bill, no. |
| Date | 21:31:38, March 09, 2018 CET | From | Luthori Workers' Committee | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | Nor have I then denied it happened twice, before then claiming it was a Ctrl C/Ctrl V mistake. |
| Date | 00:26:59, March 10, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | I forgot to delete it before posting. Or are you still convinced that it was a scheme to somehow make you believe I was an active party? |
| Date | 00:32:39, March 10, 2018 CET | From | Luthori Workers' Committee | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | You know the rules 13.1 Players using inactive accounts and/or accounts from outside nations may only propose bills and/or contribute to discussions, whether IC (in-character) or OOC (out-of-character) with the general consent of the players in the nation. You don't have my consent |
| Date | 00:47:12, March 10, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Red Rose Coalition for Freedom of Speech |
| Message | And nobody else has a problem with it. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 223 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 442 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: References to prominent real-life persons are not allowed. This includes references to philosophies featuring the name of a real-life person (eg. "Marxism", "Thatcherism", "Keynesianism"). |
| Random quote: "I swear to the Lord I still can't see Why Democracy means Everybody but me." - Langston Hughes, The Black Man Speaks |