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Bill: Ustawa o aborcji.

Details

Submitted by[?]: Sojusz Wolnych Demokratów

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 4383

Description[?]:

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Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date16:44:21, April 22, 2018 CET
FromCzas Patriotów
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageMr Marshall,
PO won't support this bill. This bill isn't the reason why we fighted abortion last years.
Anna Maria Strażewska, PO representative in social issues.

Date16:44:21, April 22, 2018 CET
FromCzas Patriotów
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageMr Marshall,
PO won't support this bill. This bill isn't the reason why we fighted abortion last years.
Anna Maria Strażewska, PO representative in social issues.

Date16:52:26, April 22, 2018 CET
FromSojusz Wolnych Demokratów
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageThis law is aimed at extending civil rights and freedoms, the current law is too restrictive.

Date17:02:54, April 22, 2018 CET
FromCzas Patriotów
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageFor me current law is too permissive.

Date17:03:02, April 22, 2018 CET
FromCzas Patriotów
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageFor me current law is too permissive.

Date18:27:44, April 24, 2018 CET
FromSojusz Wolnych Demokratów
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageI am persuading Partia Centrum to change its harmful decision about voting against, this bill is aimed at extending civil rights and freedoms! I have the impression of reading the law of our country that we live in a dictatorship, not democracy, which we allegedly are.

Date18:44:41, April 24, 2018 CET
FromPartia Koalicji Narodowej 🔵󠁎󠁎
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageMr. Marshall,
As I and many members of the Liberal Party have a lot of issues with this bill and are a little bit on the hedge whether to further support it, such comments from the Communists, which with democracy have so much in common as water and fire, followers of ideology which, I remind, condemned here in this chamber twice, and members of any communist party should refrain from lecturing anyone of what is and what is not democratic. We will not allow for such arrogance and defamation of the Republic which we can be proud of.

http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=546742
http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=561895

Filip Gessler,
Acting Leader of the Liberal Party.

Date22:25:24, April 24, 2018 CET
FromPartia Centrum
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageMr. Marshall,

Partia Centrum supports civil rights and freedom and a womens right to choose. We belive that abortions should be safe, legal and RARE.
However making it possible to have an abortion trough the entire course of the pregnancy is simply a step to far and to radical. This bill has nothing to do with civil rights, this bill is just a radical leftist (communinst) proposal with no factual basis with reality. And saying we are not a democracy when you are in the very most democratic place in our nation is ridicules, especially coming from a party which very ideologi is non democratic.

Damian Waldek
Party chairman of Partia Centrum

Date06:55:40, April 25, 2018 CET
FromCzas Patriotów
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageMr Marshall,

I shall give Filip Gessler a politics lesson. Left Communism, ideology of PLK is democratic version of communism and socialist equivalent of libertarianism. Of course, I am only claiming that they are democratic, I don't support their ideology.

Jan Łosiewicz, Chairman of Partia Orły.

Date13:24:23, April 25, 2018 CET
FromPartia Koalicji Narodowej 🔵󠁎󠁎
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageMr. Marshall,

I recommend Mr. Łosiewicz keeps his awkward and worthless politics lessons in his pockets or to his colleagues from his party. I wonder if Mr. Łosiewicz even thought about he said, communism is not a democratic ideology and goes against pretty every aspect of democracy, and the ideals of our Republic, which value the private property and individualism.

Filip Gessler,
Acting Leader of the Liberal Party.

Date15:32:08, April 25, 2018 CET
FromCzas Patriotów
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageMr Marshall
I understand it's about that socialism is totalitarism, this makes as much sense as saying that capitalism is danger to independence,because state does not own market.
Jan Łosiewicz, PO Chairman.

Date17:19:42, April 25, 2018 CET
FromPartia Koalicji Narodowej 🔵󠁎󠁎
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageMr. Marshall,

let's not compare capitalism with communism, as capitalists do not run away with guns and machetes and do not rob people from their private property and do not murder them if they oppose. Our economy is a social market economy which effectively protects the poorer parts of the society without implementing the ridiculous communist, or socialist agenda.

Filip Gessler,
Acting Leader of the Liberal Party.

Date22:22:23, April 25, 2018 CET
FromPartia Centrum
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageWe need to be reducing taxes on businesses and the wealthy in society as a means to stimulate business investment in the short term and benefit society at large in the long term.

Damian Waldek
Party Chairman of Partia Centrum

Date22:28:30, April 25, 2018 CET
FromCzas Patriotów
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageMr Marshall,
Maybe Mr Gessler didn't compared communism to capitalism, but he confused radical democratic socialism with communism. Saying that PLK is classis communism, like Leonidism and Metzism (OOC: Leninism and Marxism) is like saying that Partia Liberalna is nationalist, or even fascist.
Jan Łosiewicz, PO Chairman.

Date16:26:26, April 27, 2018 CET
FromSojusz Wolnych Demokratów
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageWe think people should elect government, but they should have full set of options, from social-democracy to fascism, from libertarianism to communism.

Date16:34:14, April 27, 2018 CET
FromSojusz Wolnych Demokratów
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageI strongly protest, my party is democratic and opposes the distorted version of communism which Lenin and Stalin represent. Let me quote Rosa Luxemburg [mistakenly ascribed to Marx], "There is no democracy without socialism,there is no socialism without democracy".
Wisław Juliusz
General Secretary

Date16:43:10, April 27, 2018 CET
FromSojusz Wolnych Demokratów
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageCapitalism does not guarantee freedom.

Date16:45:24, April 27, 2018 CET
FromSojusz Wolnych Demokratów
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageBesides looking at this debate, you can see the lack of knowledge of MPs who confuse socialism and communism!

Date18:20:44, April 27, 2018 CET
FromPartia Koalicji Narodowej 🔵󠁎󠁎
ToDebating the Ustawa o aborcji.
MessageOOC: I must inform you that using real-life names in the game is forbidden according to the Game Rules. You can find a list of in-game equivalents on the forum.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
     

Total Seats: 225

no
   

Total Seats: 240

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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