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Bill: National Symbol Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Lodamun Labour Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 4399
Description[?]:
| Considering our flag is a national symbol of our nation. Considering that there are currently no laws for the protection of that national symbol. The LLP proposes the National Symbol Act to protect the sanctity of our flag. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National policy regarding the desecration of the national flag.
Old value:: There are no regulations regarding the desecration or use of the national flag.
Current: The national flag may not be desecrated or dishonoured.
Proposed: The national flag may not be desecrated or dishonoured.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:27:35, May 25, 2018 CET | From | Liberal Progressives | To | Debating the National Symbol Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The Liberal Party is, of course, a patriotic party. However, the Liberal Party also would leave the citizens of this great nation the freedom to express themselves as they wish. If it is their wish to burn, tear or otherwise desecrate our flag, they should have the right to do so. The Liberal Party sees these regulations as unnecessary expansion of rules and regulations by the national government with little reason for these regulations. In it's current form, we will oppose the bill. Alex Parsnip, Spokesperson Internal Affairs, Liberal Party |
| Date | 11:32:55, May 25, 2018 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the National Symbol Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, we tend to support this motion. Silke Devis MP for LNC |
| Date | 11:33:49, May 25, 2018 CET | From | Ecosocialist Party | To | Debating the National Symbol Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Although the Ecosocialist Party loves our country very much, we do believe in freedom of speech and expression. If citizens choose to burn our flag, that's their right. Florence Merill, Spokesperson Internal Affairs, Ecosocialist Party |
| Date | 12:30:17, May 25, 2018 CET | From | Party For Liberation of the People | To | Debating the National Symbol Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Currently our Party (PLP) is heavily devided. We are devided between defending, maintaining having respect for our culture and the freedom of expression. It's a blasphemy that people would want to burn our flag, while we are such a great nation! However, there's no harm in burning a flag in and of itself. Let's just say if the flag was bought by themselves they're free to do with whatever they'd desire. However, if it's state property or someone else's they're not! Sincerely, Ingrid of Engelshoben, Head of Education and Culture Department, PLP |
| Date | 13:13:34, May 25, 2018 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the National Symbol Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, as we previously claimed to tend to support this bill, PLP kind of says what we were meaning to. LNC is a party that always has and still believes in public freedom. On the other hand, we are a Nationalist party and no one is greater within this State as the flag that represents the State. Silke Devis MP for LNC |
| Date | 13:26:09, May 25, 2018 CET | From | Lodamun Labour Party | To | Debating the National Symbol Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The LLP understands that there is freedom of expression, but in the eyes of the LLP this freedom should be limited when it comes to national symbols, like our flag. The LLP believes that with limiting this freedom it won't be impossible to express or to protest certain decisions made by the state. The LLP see's the flag as a representation of us all and thus should be protected. Mica Scott, Spokesperson Culture and Education, LLP. |
| Date | 13:32:56, May 25, 2018 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the National Symbol Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, might I note that Mica Scott has just named one principle of Lodamese Nationalism. Lodamese Nationalism states that one should act only for the benefit of the State, obviously while seeking personal happiness. Some brands of Lodamese Nationalism proclaim that the national flag is the symbol of the State, thus the symbol of the people and therefore should be handled with respect at all times. Then again, I see the paradox. If it is the flag of the people, they should be able to do with it whatever they want. Yet, considering the comment of LLP, we see that the flag represents the institution of the State of Lodamun and not its representatives. Therefore we will support this motion. Christophe Wolts LNC fraction leader |
| Date | 13:39:02, May 25, 2018 CET | From | Progressive Socialist Party | To | Debating the National Symbol Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We, for once, do agree with the liberals that the people should be free to do with a flag as they which, if they own that flag. Flags from other people or from the government is still illegal, as that is just vandalism. This however, is enshrined in our legal code. Therefore this law is unnecessary and infringes on the freedoms of our people. Sophie Hill Internal Affairs Spokesperson PSP |
| Date | 14:51:44, May 25, 2018 CET | From | Animal Liberation Front | To | Debating the National Symbol Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The Animal Liberation Front fully supports this bill. |
| Date | 18:20:49, May 25, 2018 CET | From | Lodamese Democratic Progressive Party | To | Debating the National Symbol Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Our party has always been one for freedom of expression. We are against this proposal. Trevor Takon, NGPoL MP |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 149 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 450 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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