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Bill: Combat Religious Extremist and Fundamentalist Influence Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Lodamun Labour Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 4400
Description[?]:
In our combat against religious extremism and terrorism, the LLP is of opinion that there should be made several changes in our law. 1. Currently the law has no regulation concerning religious clothing in public life. The LLP supports the right of people to decide what sort of clothes they wear but thinks this should be limited in public buildings. According to us public buildings should be a neutral place, for this the LLP suggests a ban on religious clothing and symbols in public buildings. 2. Currently religions and religious organizations are allowed to freely promote themselves. The LLP thinks this should be allowed, but believes the organizations should recieve government approval. With this change the LLP hopes to combat extremism and fundamentalism, as the government can decide to ban their attempts to spread their religion. 3. Currently there are no restrictions for Religious missionaries to come to our country. The LLP fears that such lack of restrictions opens the door for religious extremists to spread their believes in Lodamun. The LLP therefore suggests that the government should determine which foreign missionaries can enter our country. The LLP looks forward to the opinions of the other parties in the presidium and hopes for a constructive dialogue. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Current: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Proposed: The government determines which missionaries are permitted to visit on a person by person basis.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Current: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Proposed: Religions are required to obtain government approval before promoting themselves or advertising in any manner.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: It is not permitted to wear religious clothing or religious symbols in public buildings.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 11:12:02, May 26, 2018 CET | From | Liberal Progressives | To | Debating the Combat Religious Extremist and Fundamentalist Influence Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The Liberal Progressives do not support this bill. People should be free to express themselves the way they want to and the government should keep out of citizen's private lives as much as possible. George Windsor, Spokesperson Education and Culture, Liberal Progressives |
Date | 11:25:07, May 26, 2018 CET | From | Lodamun Labour Party | To | Debating the Combat Religious Extremist and Fundamentalist Influence Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The LLP wonders if the Liberals believe that extremism should go unchallenged. Mica Scott, Spokesperson Education and Culture, LLP |
Date | 11:39:37, May 26, 2018 CET | From | Liberal Progressives | To | Debating the Combat Religious Extremist and Fundamentalist Influence Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The LLP is attacking a straw man here. The Liberal Progressives have no intention of seeing extremism go unchecked. However, the Liberal Party also does not condone the blatant anti-religious sentiment of the measures and the power grab for the government that they would cause. Simply put, if the government doesn't like a religion or a preacher, they would be able to ban him or her according to these articles. This would end freedom of religion as an effective policy and is therefore not something we can in good conscience support. George Windsor, Spokesperson Education and Culture, Liberal Progressives |
Date | 11:56:19, May 26, 2018 CET | From | Lodamun Labour Party | To | Debating the Combat Religious Extremist and Fundamentalist Influence Act |
Message | Mr Speaker, It seems that it is the liberals who are using a strawman. This bill gives the government the ability to refuse extremists, but is not unrestricted. The liberals try to paint this a some sort of powergrab, yet refuse to look at the consequences their stance has. If they truely wish to protect our freedoms, they should support this bill. Mica Scott, Spokesperson Education and Culture, LLP |
Date | 12:38:37, May 26, 2018 CET | From | Liberal Progressives | To | Debating the Combat Religious Extremist and Fundamentalist Influence Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, It should be absolutely clear that the Liberal Progressives will not equivocate on its opinions. Our opposition to this current bill is twofold. Firstly, the Liberal Progressives are opposed to growing government influence in the personal lives of our citizens. This bill would only increase this influence. This alone is reason enough to oppose the bill, but there is another: Though the current government might be trusted with the responsibility of deciding which foreign missionaries are acceptable, which garbs are allowed to be worn or what religious advertising would be considered proper, a following government might not be quite so trustworthy. Although the Liberal Progressives were already opposed to this bill due to its increasing the size of government, this second reason makes our opposition to the bill even stronger. George Windsor, Spokesperson Education and Culture, Liberal Progressives |
Date | 15:26:10, May 26, 2018 CET | From | Lodamun Labour Party | To | Debating the Combat Religious Extremist and Fundamentalist Influence Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The LLP wishes to hear what plans the LP has to combat religious extremism, as it seems that the LP is willing to block every attempt to make this country saver without presenting an alternative. The laissez-faire approach of the LP won't fight religious extremism, it will only allow the spreading of it. For the LLP it is unavoidable that the government grows in size when we want to combat religious extremism. The LLP asks the Liberals to take a realistic stance in this matter! Mica Scott, Spokesperson Education and Culture, LLP |
Date | 16:46:21, May 26, 2018 CET | From | Liberal Progressives | To | Debating the Combat Religious Extremist and Fundamentalist Influence Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Ignoring the fact that there are currently no known cases of religious extremism popping up in our great country, the Liberal Progressives consider the Lodamun Police Force currently more than capable of dealing with illegal activity, including religious extremism. George Windsor, Spokesperson Education and Culture, Liberal Progressives |
Date | 10:08:44, May 27, 2018 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Combat Religious Extremist and Fundamentalist Influence Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, we have had our struggle with this kind of terrorists in the past, and we realize this might happen again. The attacks on our party and some of its officials last year is a clear sign that terror might occur. We support this bill. Silke Devis LNC MP |
Date | 14:03:14, May 27, 2018 CET | From | Ecosocialist Party | To | Debating the Combat Religious Extremist and Fundamentalist Influence Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The Ecosocialist Party is very happy with the proposed bills by the Labour Party. Actually, we don't think this is going far enough: we should ban all religious activities and currents from our country. But for now, this is a good first step. Julia Tyson, Spokesperson for Education and Culture // Ecosocialist Party |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 149 | |||
no | Total Seats: 450 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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