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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of November 4438
Details
Submitted by[?]: Authoritarian Luthori Alliance
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4439
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Authoritarian Luthori Alliance
Article 2
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Social Democratic Party
Article 3
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Trade Union and Socialist Coalition
Article 4
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Authoritarian Luthori Alliance
Article 5
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Social Democratic Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Authoritarian Luthori Alliance
Article 7
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Trade Union and Socialist Coalition
Article 8
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Social Democratic Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Trade Union and Socialist Coalition
Article 10
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Social Democratic Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Trade Union and Socialist Coalition
Article 12
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Trade Union and Socialist Coalition
Article 13
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Social Democratic Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:46:52, August 14, 2018 CET | From | Trade Union and Socialist Coalition | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4438 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Our demands to enter into a Government remain unchanged. We will not serve in a Government that does not implement some of both the economic and social policies that made up our last manifesto. This must include the full passage of our education act from our last period in Government that was voted down, and the complete repeal (with nothing else added in by the LRP) of the spiritual resurgence act. If we get those assurances we will join a Government. If not, we are not prepared to placidly approve of the current state affairs in our nation. It's really quite simple, some have remarked that we are childish, but I've been here long enough to know that's establishment speak for Principled. Ben Sullivan (TUSC Leader) |
| Date | 04:28:41, August 14, 2018 CET | From | Authoritarian Luthori Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4438 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We can guarantee that if this government forms, these would be passed within the first year of office. Geoffrey Henderson ALA Leader |
| Date | 10:53:58, August 14, 2018 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4438 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Sir Henderson can not garentuee that it will pass since we will vote against that bill. We stand on firm ground against such a proposal and if that is the condition of the now very radical Socialists, we can not support. Alice Teodurschu Chancellor and Imperial-Seal bearer |
| Date | 16:32:14, August 14, 2018 CET | From | Trade Union and Socialist Coalition | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4438 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, If supporting secular, well funded, comprehensive education for our children garners me the label radical, then I will wear it with pride. My Party never claimed to be a middle of the road party. We are a party clear in our principles and objectives. During our last term of Government we did some very productive things, and the first Government we were ever in was one of the most successful in Luthori history. Unfortunately throughout this whole period the SDPs impression has become that compromise is giving up everything that we and the Labour Party of Luthori believed to agree with them. We rooted for defence cuts, secular reform and progressive Social reform, and none of them were ever agreed to. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. We're not going to get fooled again Mr Speaker, Ben Sullivan (TUSC Leader) |
| Date | 19:47:20, August 14, 2018 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4438 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Mr Sullivan were of course well aware of our positions. We made them very clear during cabinet negotiations. Showing who really is a fool if he either didn't read our manifesto or listened in on the meetings between our parties. Alice Teodurschu Chancellor and Imperial-Seal bearer |
| Date | 21:01:23, August 14, 2018 CET | From | Trade Union and Socialist Coalition | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4438 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, It seems as though someone has missed the boat as usual. We knew full well that the honourable Lady was unlikely to compromise, although she did promise to support ‘social reform' when we went into Coaltion with the Liberal Republican Party, I don't remember much being implemented. And it's now very hypocritical for the Social Democratic Party to attack the current state of affairs when they refuse to give an inch on any issue, especially when it is simply allowing Luthori citizens to live their own lives provided they don't harm anyone else. Ben Sullivan (TUSC Leader) |
| Date | 21:07:33, August 14, 2018 CET | From | Luthori People's Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4438 |
| Message | Mr Speaker I fully agree with Mr Sullivan. Alice Teodurschu has "led" the most ineffective and incompetent goverment in the history of the empire. James Biden Party Chairman of Liberal Republican Party |
| Date | 07:08:34, August 15, 2018 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4438 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, While we were able to accept these positions to the cabinet, it would require the resignation of Mr West and Mr Sullivan. They have brought fourth the nasty and distasteful rhetoric in this diet. While it may be to the benefit of myself and the rest of the parties in this diet for them to stay in power, its not in the interest of the country, for heavens sake, Go! Ebba Busch Thor Leader of the Social Democratic Party |
| Date | 18:13:33, August 15, 2018 CET | From | Trade Union and Socialist Coalition | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4438 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, How the honourable Lady can possibly come to the conclusion that it would benefit the other parties in the diet for me to step aside, I am not possibly sure. The Honourable Lady can try as she might to attack my record and popularity, but there's a reason why working class people in my part of the world have continued to elect me to this place for longer than she's been alive, because I don't need to look at an opinion poll to know what people need, because I know. When I was a young boy, I new the value of state sponsored housing, because I lived through it. I know the pain of fractured and unstable families, because I had one. I know how important state benefits are because without them I would've starved to death as a child. It's nice for her majesty Miss Busch Thor to make visits to people every now and then, it's nice that she sometimes tries to connect with the common people, maybe one day she'll truly understand. Ben Sullivan (TUSC Leader) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 98 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 347 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: In cases where a party has no seat, the default presumption should be that the party is able to contribute to debates in the legislature due to one of its members winning a seat at a by-election. However, players may collectively improvise arrangements of their own to provide a satisfying explanation for how parties with no seats in the legislature can speak and vote there. |
| Random quote: "Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made" - Otto von Bismark |