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Bill: Constitutional Amendment 1: Consolidation of Chancellor and Presidential Roles
Details
Submitted by[?]: New Liberal Party of Hutori
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 4447
Description[?]:
| A bill to combine the roles of President and Chancellor into the "First Minister." Should it pass, the Amendment would apply to the next election. President Morris would serve out her term as President, and Chancellor Jourdain will serve out his term as Chancellor. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Current: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Proposed: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.
Old value:: Chancellor
Current: Prime Minister
Proposed: .
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: His Imperial & Most Excellent Royal Majesty William VII of House Steuart-Carmichael, Sovereign of the Imperial Commonwealth, Inheritor of the House of Rothingren-Traugott Orange-Villyan Branch, Monarch & King of Hutori, High Chieftain of the Mashacara, Emperor of Luthori, King of Kazullia, Prince of Vanuku, Lord Sovereign of the Order of the Golden Lion, Supreme Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith & Constitution As Represented by Their Excellency The Dually Elected President of the Commonwealth
Current: His Imperial and Most Excellent Royal Majesty, Maximillian of House Steuart-Carmichael, King and Monarch of Hutori, High Chieftain of the Mashacara People, Prince of Orange-Vilyan, Vanuku, Dolgava, Lourenne, Kazullia & Dorvik, Grand Duke of Geharon & Iztapalata, Duke of Stormkapp, Karzon, Carolleux & Bellemont, Count of Ackerly, Lord Sovereign of the Order of the Golden Lion, Supreme Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, Defender of the Constitution and the Faith
Proposed: The First Minister, in service to the people of Hutori and His Imperial & Most Excellent Royal Majesty William VII of House Steuart-Carmichael, Sovereign of the Imperial Commonwealth, Inheritor of the House of Rothingren-Traugott Orange-Villyan Branch, Monarch & King of Hutori, High Chieftain of the Mashacara, Emperor of Luthori, King of Kazullia, Prince of Vanuku, Lord Sovereign of the Order of the Golden Lion, Supreme Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith & Constitution
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:23:21, August 30, 2018 CET | From | New Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment 1: Consolidation of Chancellor and Presidential Roles |
| Message | === From the Desk of the President of the Commonwealth === To Parliament: I hereby put forth this legislation for your consideration. It is time for the Commonwealth to do away with the role I currently hold, and combine the roles of Chancellor and President. Doing so will streamline operations of the nation and make it clear to our partners and friends abroad who is actually in charge at any given time. Just today I received a message from our neighbors in Davostan that should have been received by the Chancellor and Foreign Minister. My colleague from Acton, Mr. Jim O'Neill, will address that message during Chancellor's questions. I want to stress that I do not believe that this a Monarchist-Republican issue. It is a good governance issue. Therefore, I propose that the First Minister - the name I believe best fits the combination of the Chancellor and President - carry the honorifics related to the Presidency until such a time in which we resolve the Republican/Royalist issue. I hope my colleagues from both parties will see the immediate benefit of this change and vote for this Constitutional Amendment. Sophia Morris President of the Commonwealth |
| Date | 17:51:00, August 30, 2018 CET | From | New Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment 1: Consolidation of Chancellor and Presidential Roles |
| Message | OOC: Did I set this up correctly to do what I want it to do? |
| Date | 18:01:44, August 30, 2018 CET | From | Hutori Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment 1: Consolidation of Chancellor and Presidential Roles |
| Message | OOC: I think that is right |
| Date | 18:02:50, August 30, 2018 CET | From | Hutori Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment 1: Consolidation of Chancellor and Presidential Roles |
| Message | OOC: I'd personally rather go with Prime Minister but if more people are in favour of First Minister thats ok with me |
| Date | 21:03:34, August 30, 2018 CET | From |  Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment 1: Consolidation of Chancellor and Presidential Roles |
| Message | OOC: Reverse the HoS and HoG title and pretty sure you are good to go |
| Date | 02:17:33, August 31, 2018 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment 1: Consolidation of Chancellor and Presidential Roles |
| Message | OOC: Personally in favour of Prime Minister as well, otherwise I approve this |
| Date | 14:09:53, August 31, 2018 CET | From | Consumers party of Hutori | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment 1: Consolidation of Chancellor and Presidential Roles |
| Message | OOC: you guys do understand that this gives the fist minister the power to veto any cabinet proposal |
| Date | 14:19:25, August 31, 2018 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment 1: Consolidation of Chancellor and Presidential Roles |
| Message | OOC: No it doesn't. It means its impossible to have a Cabinet without the FM in it. In the Proposals you can still list another Party as HoG (basically a Deputy) and on the Cabinet page itself itll list the other person... but this legally means the FM is head of the Cabinet. |
| Date | 15:52:46, August 31, 2018 CET | From | Hutori Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment 1: Consolidation of Chancellor and Presidential Roles |
| Message | OOC: Basically what will happen is there will only be 1 election, instead of both a presidential and parliamentary election, the head of state will be whoever is given the role of First Minister |
| Date | 16:36:56, August 31, 2018 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment 1: Consolidation of Chancellor and Presidential Roles |
| Message | OOC: Umm no... the FM as far as I'm aware still gets an election of their own. They are just guaranteed a seat at the Cabinet table |
| Date | 20:05:08, August 31, 2018 CET | From | New Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Constitutional Amendment 1: Consolidation of Chancellor and Presidential Roles |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, There is still time for the Consumers or USPH to change their votes. I will remind both of them that doing so resolves a number of the issues parties have suggested they have with the "Republic at last" bill. Jim O'Neill Leader of the New Liberals |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 162 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 19 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: When forming a cabinet, try to include as few parties as possible, while still obtaining a majority of the seats. |
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