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Bill: Freedom and Secularism Act 4471
Details
Submitted by[?]: Trade Union and Socialist Coalition
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 4475
Description[?]:
| A bill to extend personal freedom and transform Luthori into a more Democratic and Secular society |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards police presence.
Old value:: The police patrol all property at all times.
Current: The police patrol public property at all times.
Proposed: The police patrol public property at all times.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Sexual education in schools.
Old value:: Schools have an obligation to give sexual education at some point in puberty, but individual students have an opt-out option.
Current: Schools have an obligation to give sexual education at some point in puberty.
Proposed: Schools have an obligation to give sexual education at some point in puberty.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: It is at the discretion of the police officer to torture suspects for information.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Torture is never allowed.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory.
Current: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers are mandatory in schools.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Current: No religions are taxed.
Proposed: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Current: Any religion may set up a school, but they are strictly regulated.
Proposed: Religious schools are not allowed.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change State penalties for blasphemy
Old value:: Both private and public blasphemy are considered grave offenses, and are heavily prosecuted.
Current: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Proposed: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning sex reassignment surgery.
Old value:: Sex reassignment surgery is illegal.
Current: Sex reassignment surgery is legal but regulated.
Proposed: There is no policy on sex reassignment surgery.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Current: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Proposed: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards civilians who conscientiously object to being required to perform military service (if applicable).
Old value:: It is a criminal offence to refuse to perform military service.
Current: Conscientious objectors can be exempted from combatant roles, but not from non-combatant roles.
Proposed: Conscientious objectors are exempted.
Article 12
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the treatment of prisoners of war.
Old value:: Surrendering enemy combatants are summarily executed.
Current: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Proposed: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Article 13
Proposal[?] to change The recreational drug policy.
Old value:: Recreational drug use is forbidden.
Current: Recreational drug use is regulated by local governments.
Proposed: The use of cannabis is legal.
Article 14
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on vaccinations.
Old value:: The government mandates vaccination for all children, but parents may opt out for religious or ideological reasons.
Current: The government encourages vaccinations for children, but does not enforce them.
Proposed: The government mandates vaccination for all children.
Article 15
Proposal[?] to change The right to appeal against a judgement rendered by a court.
Old value:: All judgements are final and binding; appealing against them is not possible.
Current: Every person has the right to appeal against a judgement and to have it reviewed by a higher court.
Proposed: Every person has the right to appeal against a judgement and to have it reviewed by a higher court.
Article 16
Proposal[?] to change Curfew policy (curfew time to be determined in the bill description).
Old value:: Minors may not use streets or public property beyond the curfew time.
Current: The national government may impose curfews, but only if a state of emergency has been declared.
Proposed: Local governments may impose curfews, but only if a state of emergency has been declared.
Article 17
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: Religious doctrine determines the death penalty.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Article 18
Proposal[?] to change The right to trial by jury (if there are courts)
Old value:: No one is allowed a trial by jury.
Current: Individuals accused of serious crimes have the right to trial by jury.
Proposed: Individuals accused of any crime have the right to trial by jury.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:18:25, October 20, 2018 CET | From | Hosian Democratic Union | To | Debating the Freedom and Secularism Act 4471 |
| Message | OOC: So, we dont actually mind engaging in RP on this and even debating, but a mixed issue 18 proposal bill like this will have a lot of us abstaining since these are major changes that will cause implications for even the LDP. If I were you, I would go on discord (add Ovarix#3328) as we are arranging a cabinet. In the current form though, this is sort of a bill that most of us like to avoid (we dub these "visibility" bills). We would even vote on some compromise version of this, but some of these are just extreme secular and some of these are just an undoing of fascist legislation (which we to some degree do support). |
| Date | 13:38:23, October 21, 2018 CET | From | Trade Union and Socialist Coalition | To | Debating the Freedom and Secularism Act 4471 |
| Message | OOC): If people don't like a bill they can vote for or vote against. We are perfectly entitled to introduce an act like this. It mainly is a visibility bill though |
| Date | 19:46:27, October 24, 2018 CET | From | Hosian Democratic Union | To | Debating the Freedom and Secularism Act 4471 |
| Message | OOC: By voting "no", it will damage some positions and shift them. By voting "yes", it will improve some positions, and damage others. This is why I *never* do visibility bills, its unfair to other parties. The parties required to vote for this would be getting hurt un-necessarily. For example, White Rose would love to liberalize the courts, but they want a state religion. This would turn them into a secular party at the expense of some reforms they would otherwise want. |
| Date | 19:47:16, October 24, 2018 CET | From | Hosian Democratic Union | To | Debating the Freedom and Secularism Act 4471 |
| Message | Basically, this bill says "either be a religious fascist or a secular person" |
| Date | 17:56:26, October 25, 2018 CET | From | Hosian Democratic Union | To | Debating the Freedom and Secularism Act 4471 |
| Message | OOC: Other parties are encouraged to abstain if it damages their positions. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 152 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 86 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 207 |
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