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Bill: Lex de Religio Censere
Details
Submitted by[?]: Factio Unitatis Patriae
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 4482
Description[?]:
| Senators, I believe that one of the reasons why my bill encouraging a state religion based on the Aurorian Church did not pass is that the accuracy of the data that Senators were using to base their arguments on was not up to date. The last official data was compiled in the 4450s and was published in 4460 (OOC: Cultural Protocol data) I therefore assert being several decades out of date it is not as accurate as it could be. Our own research suggests that rather more people now follow the Hosian faith than the 44 per cent stated thanks to a series of pro-religion laws approved by the senate. So, in order to make sure we have accurate and up to date information at our fingertips, I advocate introducing a law which ensures all nationals register their religion. This means uncertainties such as those that now exist will no longer be a problem. Quintus Viridius Fabianus Sentator; Party Leader |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Racial and religious registration of nationals.
Old value:: The government does not require nationals to register their race or religion.
Current: All nationals are required to register their race and religion.
Proposed: All nationals are required to register their religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:38:52, November 06, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the Lex de Religio Censere |
| Message | Senators, This will not lead to unity. This will lead to sectarianism. This proposal will mark citizens as distinct based on their religious beliefs and membership, and will constitute a dangerous tool in the hands of less scrupulous governments and government officials to discriminate against members of minority religions. And to offer clarification, we did not oppose the state religion bill because the Aurorian Church is not the majority religion. We would have opposed that bill regardless of the demographic composition of Selucian society. We opposed that proposal because, while we believe that citizens should be committed to the common good, we believe the common good should be determined based on engagement and participation, not commonality, created in deliberation and not pre-politically, and should be open to contribution from all and thus open to change. If we want unity we should start by acknowledging our shared fate and future that stems from our status as subjects to the laws of the Republic and sharers in its well-being. This sense of common fate is a stronger motivator for policies aiming towards the common good than any deep sense of common belonging that can be brought by a shared identity or culture. Common belonging and commitment to the common good require equal and joint participation from all citizens, regardless of their religious beliefs, which means that citizens of other cultures should be able to appear in their identities and have their voices heard, but also requires cross-cultural and inter-religious political interaction and engagement. We thus oppose both multiculturalism and sectarianism, as they do not lead to common deliberation within a united public sphere but rather lead to the creation of fragmented enclaves. But we also oppose the establishment of a single pre-existing culture or religion as the basis of national unity. There is no single eternal account of the common good; it must be established, negotiated, and defended as a result of politics, through deliberation, contestation, and antagonism. There is no single account of the good that is self-evidently right either universally or for an existing culture. The good must be established communally, and should always be subject to change. We will then have to oppose this bill. If Senator Fabianus believes our demographic data is out of date, there is nothing stopping the central government from conducting a new census. But in the meantime, marking every citizen as part of a religion is nothing but a tool for sectarian division. Symeon Tullius Pluto Senator |
| Date | 20:14:38, November 06, 2018 CET | From | Clara Aurora - COSIRA | To | Debating the Lex de Religio Censere |
| Message | Senators, As outlined by Sen. Pluto, this proposal only aims to divide society. If power falls into the hands of extremist governments, these records can be very powerful as well as dangerous data. We must not let ourselves be led by fanaticism if we want to build a united society, and this proposal aims to achieve the opposite. Irus Moraiti Orator of IMCS |
| Date | 11:15:13, November 07, 2018 CET | From | Factio Unitatis Patriae | To | Debating the Lex de Religio Censere |
| Message | Senators, I can assure you I am neither a bigot nor pro-sectarianism. I merely wish to ensure we have the most accurate and up to date information at our fingertips. This proposal will achieve that and will also help alleviate the issues raises by certain parties - not Senator Pluto's party I concede - that the Aurorian Church does not have the percentage of followers in order to justify it position as the ceremonial state church. Quintus Viridius Fabianus Sentator; Party Leader |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 177 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 356 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 217 |
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