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Bill: Lex Prisciana de Nobilitatis Titulus
Details
Submitted by[?]: Clara Aurora - COSIRA
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 4495
Description[?]:
| In order to build a republic, all citizens must feel equal conditions. Selfishness, however, means that those people who hold noble titles can consider themselves, by owning them, above the rest of citizens. Panegyris Priscian Rector of Selucia |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Titles of nobility.
Old value:: Titles of nobility are not granted, but their use is not forbidden.
Current: Titles of nobility may be granted only by the Head of State.
Proposed: No titles of nobility are granted or recognised, their use is forbidden.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:19:58, December 05, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the Lex Prisciana de Nobilitatis Titulus |
| Message | Senators, I wish to draw attention to the fact that this bill is unconstitutional and a grave breach of the principle of separation of powers. Under the Law of the Rector of the Republic the executive may not introduce legislation, that prerogative rests exclusively with the Senate. I call on the Princeps Senatus to enforce the constitutional procedures of the Senate and defend the legislative's independence from executive encroachment. Helena Romilia Nennia Dux Oppositionis |
| Date | 12:59:41, December 05, 2018 CET | From | Clara Aurora - COSIRA | To | Debating the Lex Prisciana de Nobilitatis Titulus |
| Message | Senators, As correctly pointed by Hon. Dux Oppositionis Romilia Nennia, this bill shall have been proposed by any member of this Senate. Therefore, the proposed law will be renamed as "Lex Moraitia de Nobilitatis Titulus" and will be defended in my name, at the proposal of the Rector of Selucia. Irus Moraiti Princeps Senatus OOC: Shall we include then the Administrative Section under Law on the Rector? |
| Date | 14:09:00, December 05, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the Lex Prisciana de Nobilitatis Titulus |
| Message | OOC: What do you mean? Like an amendment of the Rector law that includes who has the right of initiative? I think the current law is pretty straightforward that the Rector can't propose bills: "IX) In order to ensure a complete separation of powers between the executive and the legislature, no member of the government - cabinet member or official, including the Rector Rei Publicae - may propose legislation in the Senate" |
| Date | 14:57:10, December 05, 2018 CET | From | Clara Aurora - COSIRA | To | Debating the Lex Prisciana de Nobilitatis Titulus |
| Message | OOC: No, I meant precisely to exclude the Administrative Section from the law |
| Date | 11:09:50, December 06, 2018 CET | From | Factio Republicana Socialistica | To | Debating the Lex Prisciana de Nobilitatis Titulus |
| Message | OOC: I think it's fine having it there, it makes RP sense to separate the government from the legislative in a presidential system. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 274 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 274 | ||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 202 |
| Random fact: Whilst the use of non-English languages can be appropriate for nation names, party names, constitutional titles and other variables, English is the official language of communication in the game. All descriptive texts and public communications should be in English or at least appear alongside a full English translation. |
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