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Bill: Institutionalist Restoration Government
Details
Submitted by[?]: Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 4526
Description[?]:
| As per the Prerogative, the President has proposed the first government bill. This bill proposes a minority Government made up of the Institutionalist Parties Only. It can be read as a offer of the three Parties in Rebellion to come in and negotiate a peace with the Government. |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the National Conservative Party
Article 2
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK)
Article 3
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the National Conservative Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the United Kalistani Worker’s Front
Article 5
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK)
Article 6
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the National Conservative Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the United Kalistani Worker’s Front
Article 8
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK)
Article 9
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the National Conservative Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the United Kalistani Worker’s Front
Article 11
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK)
Article 12
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the National Conservative Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the United Kalistani Worker’s Front
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:34:41, February 03, 2019 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | We will NOT support a government solely made up by Rebels. |
| Date | 16:47:44, February 03, 2019 CET | From | Patriotic League | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | Once more the left parties win the presidency by a hair, once more far away from a majority in the assembly. When you become the goverment unlike when you rebelled you actually have to represent the majority of Kalistan. A goverment consistng of the three parties that started this turmoil without a offer of reconciliation is laughable. Now the Patriotic League dosent demand that we sit in this goverment. But we simply can't vote yes on a minority goverment ONLY consisting of the very parties that rebelled against the previous democratically elected goverment. Kalistan needs unity. Kalistan needs a strong majority goverment. Like what Kalistan had under the 8 years of President Blake or under Furhat. You can't govern without consensus. This cabinet composition is impossible. Try another. |
| Date | 17:00:46, February 03, 2019 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | The LDP puts a signature of complete agreement and approval of the statement by the Patriotic League. |
| Date | 17:08:12, February 03, 2019 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | Impossible cabinet composition would be a cabinet with any amounts of PL bile or an LDP head. We're not too keen on working with the parties which have pushed Kalistan to the brink of civil war. We don't wish to work with the traitors who have and will continue to destroy every fiber of Kalistan. With respect, I request the Patie traitors to fuck right on off. |
| Date | 17:09:29, February 03, 2019 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | OOC:Talk about Decorum |
| Date | 17:12:22, February 03, 2019 CET | From | Patriotic League | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | OCC like, seriously? |
| Date | 17:13:42, February 03, 2019 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | OOC When have I ever demanded decorum? |
| Date | 17:14:53, February 03, 2019 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | OOC I can go and find many examples of both of you two breaking decorum, so this is kind of hypocritical. |
| Date | 17:15:50, February 03, 2019 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | OOC:Never said “fuck” to anyone before |
| Date | 17:16:44, February 03, 2019 CET | From | Patriotic League | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | OCC oh please show everyone then these examples of the PL behaving like a drunken hobo like you did. |
| Date | 17:18:49, February 03, 2019 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | OOC You've called us wild dogs (or something like that), an insult is an insult. I don't see how telling someone to "fuck off" is any worse than equating them to animals. |
| Date | 17:19:17, February 03, 2019 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | OOC Right there, and it's OOC too. |
| Date | 20:36:13, February 03, 2019 CET | From | Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK) | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | Comrades, We are not expecting this government to pass. Just so we are clear. This proposal was made so the majority of the Assembly could vote against it, and the Opposition can stay entirely out of the Government. A defeat of this bill is essentially an endorsement of the civil war. So can we cut the OOC chatter here and focus on the needs of the People of Kalistan? Which means taking PL Assembly members out into the Ananto Straits on a container ship and informing our nation's enemies that it is there, so they can have their target practice? The tirade of the PL and the impugning the electoral process of Kalistan has got to stop. It elected a President on the Second ballot, by the rules. The Prerogative gives the Plurality the right to propose the next government bill when this one fails, and the Opposition now has no reason to come in from the Civil War. We are going to continue fighting until the PL's legislation is overturned, because say what you like about it: the entire legislative slate of the Liberals in Kalistan is anti-Kalistani. If you want to call it anarchocapitalism, you can call it that. If you want to call it police-statism, and have that be an entirely accurate description of the nonsense put forth by the so called "Patriots" then go for it. I don't particularly care. But we are going to continue to fight until that agenda is reversed, because it really is anti-thetical to Kalistani traditions. We don't feel there is any need to engage the PL any longer. On anything. And the SP does not intend to. |
| Date | 20:37:03, February 03, 2019 CET | From | Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK) | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | To be clear: The SP is not interested in reconciliation. Not with the PL. |
| Date | 20:43:50, February 03, 2019 CET | From | Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK) | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | And further more: It is fascinating that the PL insists now on reconciliation and concensus, when the bills they have proposed have had the consensus of only two Parties who have formed a majority, while cutting the interests of the other Parties entirely out of the conversation. The goal was to reorient the country, at all costs, without exception. To force the nation to adopt that monstrous ideology, whether the opposition approved at all. We got all sorts of paeans to the notion that "Well, this is democracy... sorry..." But now the PL talks about consensus? There will be none. The only consensus the SP will participate in is one which excludes the PL from all levels of Government. We might be willing to work with the LDP, because we have historically found some basis for cooperation with the LDP, and served willingly under a LDP President. But we have no basis for modus vivendi with the Patriot League. So we will never be willing to work with them. At some point in the past, we attempted, and they countered with a "my way or the highway" proposal on militias, and it was very important for them that the SP support their anti-militias act, so they could have the appearance of bi-partisan support. We would not play along, so they made war on Kalistan. And now, there is literally no ground for "consensus" left with them. They need to be out of government, and need to be marginalized to the point where they can never affect life of the people of Kalistan again. |
| Date | 20:48:10, February 03, 2019 CET | From | Patriotic League | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | The PL proposed liberal economic policy. We propsed the end of the militia system in favour of a professionell military system. In response instead of actually try to win election for which they have failed at for a very long time, the opposition went in to rebellion. |
| Date | 21:08:25, February 03, 2019 CET | From | Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK) | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | #Fake News |
| Date | 22:45:28, February 03, 2019 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | OOC first of all we agreed to the rp until the elections,which have passed therefore as far as i am concerned the civil war rp is over second of all *ahem* İC we are willing to compromise and form a government which may get the approval of the assembly to some degree and end hostilites HOWEVER as we said before we will not be bullied to a certain government by ANYONE. We have had some negotiations with some opposition members from the NCP about a possible government other than that we can only say that when we have the chance we will attempt an appeasing government coalition |
| Date | 23:44:59, February 03, 2019 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | Just to remind everyone the Presidential right to form a coalition ends in October,therefore the Largest non-presidential party (Patriotic League) will have the right to attempt to form the government should they concede or fail within 6 months then We are in line as the second largest non-presidential party |
| Date | 00:32:01, February 04, 2019 CET | From | Socialist Party of Kalistan (SPoK) | To | Debating the Institutionalist Restoration Government |
| Message | OOC: We NEVER agreed to RP until the Elections. I certainly didn't do that. In fact, I said, correctly that we wouldn't even be done planning by the election. So as far as I am concerned, the RP is NOT Over. IC: As I said, I expect the PL will offer a government bill as soon as this one fails. Or before, it really don't matter. I put my proposal out, and didn't get a majority vote on it, so we will continue with the planning for the civil war. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 106 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 165 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 4 |
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