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Bill: Bill C-15: Reducing Wasted Time in the Senate Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hutori Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 4564
Description[?]:
| This Act is designed to stop parties from repeatedly proposing the exact same bill and wasting the Senate's time. Article 1) Private Member's, Government, and Constitutional Amendment Bills 1.1 If a bill is defeated by the Senate twice, it can not be reintroduced in the same form for the remainder of the session. 1.2 The bill may be reintroduced during the same session if it is amended. Article 2) Treaty Ratification Bills 2.1 If a treaty ratification is defeated by the Senate twice, it may not be brought back for another vote for the remainder of the session. 2.2 Article 2.1 also applies to treaty withdraw bills. OOC: The session refered to in this bill ends when an election happens incase anyone was unsure. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:06:55, April 19, 2019 CET | From | National Salvation Front (NSF) | To | Debating the Bill C-15: Reducing Wasted Time in the Senate Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We disapprove if that bill. What if a bill is defated due to one party abstaining? What if the party proposing the bill is able to reach a deal with another party during the same session? |
| Date | 18:45:20, April 19, 2019 CET | From | Hutori Party | To | Debating the Bill C-15: Reducing Wasted Time in the Senate Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, If a party "reaches a deal" with a party who originally voted against their bill, that "deal" usually would include changes to the original bill, which would mean that under this law, that bill could be proposed again with the agreed upon changes being included. The National Salvation Front has continued to waste the time of this Senate by proposing the same treaty ratification 5 times during this session. Hon. Mélina Giroux Senator for St Anslem Nicolet Leader of the Royal Conservative Party of Hutori |
| Date | 18:50:26, April 19, 2019 CET | From | National Progress Party | To | Debating the Bill C-15: Reducing Wasted Time in the Senate Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I must say that my party and I are completly behind this bill. We fully support this idea. However, maybe limiting the proposition of a bill to one time every session is a bit to extreme, sometimes, mistake can happen during the vote and the situation can change between two proposition of the same bill. Maybe increasing the number to two would be more adequate. -Owen Denoncourt Chairman of the National Progress Party |
| Date | 19:41:18, April 19, 2019 CET | From | Hutori Party | To | Debating the Bill C-15: Reducing Wasted Time in the Senate Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We will take the suggestion of the NPP under consideration, but will wait for the opinions of other parties. Hon. Mélina Giroux Senator for St Anslem Nicolet Leader of the Royal Conservative Party |
| Date | 12:32:10, April 20, 2019 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Bill C-15: Reducing Wasted Time in the Senate Act |
| Message | OOC: Fundamentally, it wont stop being from doing it, as they can with the game mechanic, therefore I cannot see it working long term. I support it on merit though |
| Date | 19:19:05, April 20, 2019 CET | From | Hutori Party | To | Debating the Bill C-15: Reducing Wasted Time in the Senate Act |
| Message | OOC: I know that, but it is essentially made as a RP rules bill. |
| Date | 19:20:12, April 20, 2019 CET | From | Hutori Party | To | Debating the Bill C-15: Reducing Wasted Time in the Senate Act |
| Message | OOC: also I've amended it to allow bills to be introduced twice before needing to be amended. |
| Date | 19:48:02, April 20, 2019 CET | From | National Progress Party | To | Debating the Bill C-15: Reducing Wasted Time in the Senate Act |
| Message | OOC: Also, let's not forget that the Particracy rules prohibit bill spamming so if someone post the same bill over and over again we can certainly call moderation for it. |
| Date | 01:06:35, April 21, 2019 CET | From | Hutori Party | To | Debating the Bill C-15: Reducing Wasted Time in the Senate Act |
| Message | OOC: exactly. This is essentially just a bill that will go on the books saying that this nation doesn’t tolerate it. If players ignore it, we can easily report them to moderation. |
| Date | 01:08:54, April 21, 2019 CET | From | Hutori Party | To | Debating the Bill C-15: Reducing Wasted Time in the Senate Act |
| Message | OOC: so what I would suggest going forward is that if this passes, we refer users spamming bills to this bill, and if they don’t stop, then we go ahead and report it to moderation. My point of this bill was to have a tool to use so that we don’t have to get moderation involved unless they decide to violate the law |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 190 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 143 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 82 |
| Random fact: Don't vote yes on a cabinet coalition that doesn't give you the power that you deserve. |
| Random quote: "Conservatives define themselves in terms of what they oppose." - George Will |