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Bill: New Flag (proposal)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Demokrātiskā partija
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 4821
Description[?]:
| The national flag (URL). |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The national flag (URL).
Old value:: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/particracy/images/d/d2/Dolgava_Flag_4470.png/revision/latest?cb=20181022074902
Current: https://i.imgur.com/UPP9KNR.png
Proposed:
| https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/particracy/images/6/62/Dolgava3.png/revision/latest?cb=20200922183639 OR https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/particracy/images/3/35/Dolgava2.png/revision/latest?cb=20200922183712 |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:39:40, September 22, 2020 CET | From | Demokrātiskā partija | To | Debating the New Flag (proposal) |
| Message | Are we going to approve a new homeland flag in a democratic way? What do you think of these models? |
| Date | 11:37:18, September 23, 2020 CET | From | Dolgavans Libertāru Partija | To | Debating the New Flag (proposal) |
| Message | Both bad, we stand with our proposal of a republican simple flag with three vertical stripes, brown-white-brown. |
| Date | 14:32:35, September 23, 2020 CET | From | Demokrātiskā partija | To | Debating the New Flag (proposal) |
| Message | I honestly believe that our two types of flag models are much better than your DLP. Its flag has no sign of homeland identity, nor does it represent the nation and pride of the people of Dolgava; it is simply a loose flag, taken from somewhere, with random colors and which says nothing about being republican. Our type of flag, however, is inspired by the nation's most expensive values. I hope that the other political parties will consider this. Emma Goldstein Chairman of DP |
| Date | 18:53:32, September 23, 2020 CET | From | Dolgavans Libertāru Partija | To | Debating the New Flag (proposal) |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Your flag is a disappointment to the bright left wing future our beatiful nation will have! We must be inspired by progress and solidarity, to build a new society that will protect it's citizens! The old values and symbols are of a long dead oppressive conservative regime, We will not give up on our model, as our flag is representative of progress, unity and most importantly republicanism. The simple tricolor is efficient, beautiful and most importantly it represents democracy. We do not care as much of national values, as of personal and community values, which can vary. In order to show progress and solidarity we must agree our differences make us unique and everyone has own goal, thus the brown-white-brown is a flag of new hope for a better future were everybody is treated fairly. |
| Date | 23:01:39, September 23, 2020 CET | From | Demokrātiskā partija | To | Debating the New Flag (proposal) |
| Message | Herr Speaker, We don't really agree with DLP's words. We do believe that the nation of Dolgava needs to be more plural, social, democratic, progressive and republican. However, we disagree with the idea that national symbols, understood as the founders of the homeland, should be depressed because they are supposedly "from an oppressive past". Dolgava's colors are and always have been red and blue, just as the animal of the Dolgavan nation has never ceased to be the White-Tailed Deer; such national issues go beyond any ideological thinking and relate more to the notion of People and Citizenship. Emma Goldstein Chairman of the DP |
| Date | 09:04:17, September 24, 2020 CET | From | Dolgavans Libertāru Partija | To | Debating the New Flag (proposal) |
| Message | Mr Speaker, My party stands against nationalism and symbolism from the past. We do not care if these were the values for some time. Being old does not justify we need to cling to archaic values! This is the time and place for a bright new democratic and socialist future. Our party will continue to fight relentlessly for human solidarity and progress among all of us, not only the few. Social democracy at this point it's a capitalist farce. The flag proposed by me is set to symbolize democracy, unity and progress. It's simple design, the tricolor, it what it make it revolutionary and inspiring, plus welcoming to everyone. We do not believe your flag represents the people, since not everybody living here can relate to it. Mine is more inclusive as it stands for everyone. |
| Date | 15:55:03, September 24, 2020 CET | From | Demokrātiskā partija | To | Debating the New Flag (proposal) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We do not agree with the words of the DLP, above all, because it places the party's ideological thinking above the fundamental national pillars. We do agree on a more just and egalitarian society, but we reject any kind of totalitarianism and dictatorship, even if under the argument of solidarity. We do not understand how a "brown-white-brown" flag can be representative of being revolutionary, inspiring and welcoming, nor can it progress unity and democracy. It is simply in a weak design as a result of unilateral conduct. DP does it differently and calls all political parties to debate and to the democratic process. For all that exposed, we will propose a new concept of national flag. Emma Goldstein Chairman of Democratic Party |
| Date | 08:45:49, September 25, 2020 CET | From | Dolgavans Libertāru Partija | To | Debating the New Flag (proposal) |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Here goes the centrist again calling out names not knowing what he is talking about. Our party is fairly democratic and pro decentralization. Unlike other leftist parties in Dolgavia, we are libertarian and stress individual liberty as much as collective wellbeing. So do not come at us telling us we are "totalitarian". This kind of nonsense from the liberals shows us how willing crapitalists are in unjustly accusing the socialists of lack of democracy, when our party fights relentlessly against corruption, centralization and hierarchies. We are here to stay as a democratic party. You do not understand why our flag is revolutionary because you do not understand the term revolutionary and our flag's symbolism linked to it. It represents a fresh new start for the Social Republic. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 12 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 15 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 73 |
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