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Bill: Less State Ownership
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Democratic Party of Beluzia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 5004
Description[?]:
| Currently, the state monopoly on a lot of sectors is taxing on the budget, so we may be able to spend more money on healthcare and other beneficial things by letting go of this monopoly. While majority-public ownership is preferable to us, such a burden on the budget is negative. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on airports.
Old value:: The government owns and operates all airports.
Current: The government owns and operates all airports.
Proposed: The government has some involvement in the ownership and operation of airports, but leaves a role for the private sector too.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: Health care is entirely public and free; private clinics are banned.
Current: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Proposed: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state offers a voluntary public pension, combined with other voluntary private pensions.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards space exploration.
Old value:: The government shall fully fund a state-owned space agency which controls all national space-related activity.
Current: The government shall fully fund a state-owned space agency which controls all national space-related activity.
Proposed: The government shall operate a space agency that contracts with and oversees private space-exploration companies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:34:02, September 25, 2021 CET | From | Traditionalist Party of Beluzia | To | Debating the Less State Ownership |
| Message | The only article I disagree with is article 2, but I am in favor of this |
| Date | 16:36:50, September 25, 2021 CET | From | Traditionalist Party of Beluzia | To | Debating the Less State Ownership |
| Message | However in the future leave this up to debate until you know it will pass |
| Date | 16:47:56, September 25, 2021 CET | From | Traditionalist Party of Beluzia | To | Debating the Less State Ownership |
| Message | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party how come you voted no? |
| Date | 16:50:41, September 25, 2021 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Less State Ownership |
| Message | If you are aware of the political leaning of my party, you will know that a democratic socialist party will not vote for less state ownership. Our party is not a social democratic one or a liberal one |
| Date | 17:02:46, September 25, 2021 CET | From | Social Democratic Party of Beluzia | To | Debating the Less State Ownership |
| Message | OOC: From a less informed viewpoint, one would assume the word of ‘Workers’ in a party name would mean communism or hard socialism. IC: We expected the Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party to vote against this, however we are slightly disappointed that they don’t wish to support our political progam. Bram Lockwood |
| Date | 17:08:18, September 25, 2021 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Less State Ownership |
| Message | OOC: Workers in a party name does not automatically mean communism or 'hard' socialism (in fact there's no such thing as hard or soft socialism, it's socialism or the many other variants that exist). There are many IRL parties now and then that have workers in their name but are far from communist or socialist, it's just a way of political labelling to attract votes. The Nazis were called the National Socialist German Workers' Party, they weren't communist or socialist. IC: Just because I disagree with the policies here doesn't mean I don't support your political program or am antagonistic to you. I am sympathetic with many of what social democracy believes in but on matters of economy, socialists and its other variants differ with social democrats and liberals. |
| Date | 17:25:42, September 25, 2021 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Less State Ownership |
| Message | OOC: There's a workers party in Singapore that is not overtly communist or socialist, and while I grant you that it might mean communism or socialism, just because they're called 'workers' shouldn't mean that there is negative connotation around it as a form of political labelling. |
| Date | 00:38:44, September 26, 2021 CET | From | Beluzian National Independence Party | To | Debating the Less State Ownership |
| Message | The BNIP was a key actor in the Beluzian nationalizations, and naturally opposes any repeal of this policy. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 130 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 401 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 119 |
| Random fact: Selucia is Particracy's modern take on Ancient Rome, located on the continent of Majatra. |
| Random quote: "A democracy that does not allow limits is not a democracy. Just as a limitless freedom is not freedom, but prevarication. Indeed, any theory of freedom worthy of this name is first of all a limit theory. If we extend the unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not willing to defend a tolerant society against the attacks of the intolerants, then the tolerants will be destroyed and the tolerance with them! Because, I ask to myself and ask you, given a certain system that we call democratic, which is today the best possible system to allow everyone to live freely and to be able to express their own thoughts, how can the same system admit attacks against its integrity? How can a system refuse the principle of the self-preservation? For this reason, to suppress the apologetics of thalerrism, it's for this reason that the exaltation of exegetes, principles, facts or methods of Thallerism and its anti-democratic aims does not constitute a violation of the freedom of manifestation of thought, but, on the contrary, the celebration of that freedom. The protection of the first premise on which a modern democratic system is based. And this premise must be safeguarded also and above all against itself and its abuses." ~ Malik Astori, Leadership of Liberty and Progress (Istalia) |