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Bill: Majatran Socialism
Details
Submitted by[?]: Vitezova Sveti Jakuv
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2228
Description[?]:
| Bringing the economy under the control of the Majatran people. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on energy generation.
Old value:: Private and public power stations exist side-by-side.
Current: All power stations are publicly owned.
Proposed: All power stations are publicly owned.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy.
Old value:: The government allows local governments to craft agricultural subsidy policy.
Current: The government subsidises the operations of low-income farming families.
Proposed: All agricultural operations are state-owned and operated.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: The government acts as an investor of last resort, by nationalizing failing industries that provide vital goods or services.
Current: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Proposed: All industry is owned and operated by the state.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning phone services.
Old value:: The state subsidizes the phone service of low income families, and regulates the rates providers can charge for phone service.
Current: There are no regulations on phone service.
Proposed: Telephone lines are provided free of charge to all citizens.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on Democratic Workers' Councils.
Old value:: The government does not intervene in the marketplace with regards to Democratic Workers' Councils.
Current: The government does not intervene in the marketplace with regards to Democratic Workers' Councils.
Proposed: The government requires most industries to be fully run by Democratic Workers' Councils.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:01:02, May 17, 2006 CET | From |  Order of Light | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | Socialism is the ideology of hell-spawn and heretics before the eyes of God. You will freeze in hell for your evil blasphemy. God Bless, Dahlia Gillespie, Second-in-Command, Priestess of The Order, Blood-Royal of God |
| Date | 00:05:19, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Vitezova Sveti Jakuv | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | Allah teaches compassion, as does the Prophet Jesus Christ, as does socialism. Our party fits in with religion. |
| Date | 00:26:28, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Order of Light | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | Allah is and Christ are pagan figures from evil pagan religions. The only true religon is the one that worships Her, The One and Most Glorious God as she intended to be worshiped, by the Pure Teachings of The Order. May She (God) Bless You, Dahlia Gillespie, Second-in-Command, Priestess of The Order, Blood-Royal of God |
| Date | 00:31:22, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Vitezova Sveti Jakuv | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | How can that possibly be? If it the only true religion why is it so secretive? How can a religion that glorifies child molestation be worth worshipping? Why does your religion not know that paganism involves the worship of natural or multiple gods? The Order of Light is full of ignorant Kaffirs. |
| Date | 00:32:14, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Vitezova Sveti Jakuv | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | Why have your people rejected their Majatran names? |
| Date | 00:46:36, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Order of Light | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | The term Paganism (in the slang of The Order) means any religion that deviates from the teachings of The Order. In the past The Order was secretive but now we are comming out to the world to spread the teachings of God to all men, and we do not worship child molestation (those are vile rumors spread by the Church of Scientology to demean our religion). And about our names, we have not rejected our Majatran names because we have never HAD majatran names (most of the old guard of The Order are part of a minority group of white Al'Badarans, but a growing number of converts to the religion are Ethnic-Majaran but most of these change their names to disassociate themselves with Muslim-Paganism) Hope this cleared up some of the confusion that Dahlia caused due to her "powerful faith" in The One True God. God Bless, Claudia Wolf, High Priestess of The Order, Leader of The Party, Guardian of the Bloodline of God |
| Date | 00:52:50, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Vitezova Sveti Jakuv | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | But you protect those who molest children? Majatran names are Majatran names, not Muslim names, otherwise Majatran names would be Muslim names, not Majatran names. None of this explains why a religion is against compassion. |
| Date | 01:08:45, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Order of Light | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | We do not protect those who commit child molestation, if there was such a case discovered the Order would report such a person to the proper authorities, but no cases of child molestation have yet to manifest themselves in our Priesthood (unlike other religions). And the names of members of The Order are (at the end of the day) a personal choice of the individual members of The Order, if so many don't wish to have Majaran names then that is their own personal business. Hope this cleared up any confusion. God Bless, Claudia Wolf, High Priestess of The Order, Leader of The Party, Guardian of the Bloodline of God |
| Date | 01:12:16, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Vitezova Sveti Jakuv | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | According to reports, 500 such cases have been discovered in the last few years. The Kaffirs appear more willing to allow such cases to emerge, or less willing to repress them? |
| Date | 01:22:48, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Order of Light | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | If those cases had occured they would of been reported by The Order to the proper authorities, and please note that for all of those cases there has been a single arrest or conviction because there is no evidence of child abuse because there has been no child abuse conducted by The Order in it's Wish Houses. Time and time again our enemies seek to destroy us with false reports and smear campaigns but we shall endure for we have the Truth on our side (not to mention God). God Bless, Claudia Wolf, High Priestess of The Order, Leader of The Party, Guardian of the Bloodline of God |
| Date | 01:30:41, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Vitezova Sveti Jakuv | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | The Order revealed these 'lies' to the world. None of this explains why the Kaffirs are against compassion? |
| Date | 01:39:40, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Order of Light | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | OOC: I posted thoses things on The Order wikipage because I wanted to keep with the wiki-tradition to presenting two sides to the article. And I'm going to do a big blowup of corruption within the Priesthood of The Order (kinda like the current Catholic Church scandals). |
| Date | 02:51:20, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Black Militant Party | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | Article 1 and 4 is what the BMP agrees with so we have to vote no. |
| Date | 08:53:59, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Al'Badaran Conservative Party | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | We prefer a mixed economy, as unlike the Order we do not confuse Religion with economy. However we agree with Article one as electrical power is one of the strategic resources that should be provided by the state. Due to its crucial role (more power should be produced without worrying for profit) |
| Date | 10:54:50, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Vitezova Sveti Jakuv | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | Next time I'll put things down individually, and leave them for debate, however this bill was motivated by a desire to get my visibilities up. |
| Date | 21:11:03, May 17, 2006 CET | From | Nacional Unionist Badaran Arbeits Partei | To | Debating the Majatran Socialism |
| Message | After the War we opened the floodgates to ethnic Deltarians and Cildanians. Majatrans only make up 47.8% of the Al'Badaran population compared to 79% at the turn of the century. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 254 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 425 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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