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Bill: Bill NP-61: National Service Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Progress Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 5183
Description[?]:
| (This bill was proposed by the minister of Defence Eric MacGregor) This bill aime at creating a national service as recommended by the President of Hutori: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4018&p=179683#p179683 |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:45:30, September 19, 2022 CET | From |  Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Bill NP-61: National Service Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker I rise to oppose the reintroduction of National Service. The Selective Service Act currently on the book already ensures that in times of war, we have conscription to swell the ranks of our Armed Forces. Further does Hutori have any modern enemies? Terra and very specifically Macon has gone through the longest continuous period of peace and stability that we've known in centuries. Is this government admitting that the Hutorian Armed Forces are currently not capable of defending our nation? Henry Woodbury Senator for Acton-Groomsbridge |
| Date | 23:12:59, September 19, 2022 CET | From | ForwardHutori | To | Debating the Bill NP-61: National Service Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, National service is an abhorrent, barbaric and troglodytic practice which we did away with long ago. I do not believe that backroom detailings between the Prime Minister and our President should feed into wider policy, namely given that combines the positions of head of state and head of government into an unfiltered and uncontrollable mess. I think that crucial detail of why this bill was introduced is enough to oppose it outright. However, the concept of national service is plainly not one which leads to a strong military. It is one which forcibly conscripts ordinary citizens, many of whom are not naturally built for regiment or battalion, and thus forces them into an unenviable position where they are being ordered under duress to defend our nation in conflict. This is not a mindset which leads to military successes, instead it is a bullish act during peacetime which will only seek to concern our allies and heighten the alarm of those who we are not so closely allied with. I urge those who are able to do so to oppose this bill. Richard Lyon, ForwardHutori Spokesperson for Defence. |
| Date | 05:33:55, September 20, 2022 CET | From | National Progress Party | To | Debating the Bill NP-61: National Service Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Capacity to defend is always relative.The current peacetime, no matter how long it has lasted for, could be broken at any moment. We can't be too cautious, it's the survival of our nation that is at stake.World war could be at our door. We can defend ourselves against one nation, but could we defend ourselves against a whole all coalition of enemies? It's hard to tell. In any case, we need to be ready. The comments from other party about the morality of this bill are compelling, yet futile.When enemy troops will be marching on Bekenial, will it matter that is was immoral to force hutorian to serve our millitary? No, it won't. What matter is the survival of our nation. The continuity of our civilization. The world is a dangerous place and it is time for Forward Hutori and the senator from Acton-Groomsbridge to realise it. -Eric MacGregor Minister of Defence Senator for Langdon Centre |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 177 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 128 |
| Random fact: In Culturally Protected nations, special care must be taken to ensure realism is maintained when role-playing a government controlled by an ethnic and/or religious minority. If it is to be supposed that this government is supported by a majority of the population, then this should be plausibly and sufficiently role-played. The burden of proof is on the player or players role-playing such a regime to demonstrate that it is being done realistically |
| Random quote: “Where would the weapons and equipment come from once you've banned the defence industry? Will we be defended by all your hippy people hurling potatoes and cabbages?” - Margaret Woodhall, former Dranian politician |