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Bill: Unity Cabinet

Details

Submitted by[?]: National Progress Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 5196

Description[?]:

With the current constitutional debate about he restoration of monarchy, it's important for Hutori to have a strong government capable of manoeuvering the state. This is why we propose this Unity Cabinet. A cabinet that include every party in Hutori except for the far-right.

For the greater good of our country, we have to work together despite our political factions.

(Under this bill, Lawrence Ferdinand Blacksmith will remain as Deputy Prime Minister)

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date18:17:22, October 15, 2022 CET
FromLeague
ToDebating the Unity Cabinet
MessageMr, Speaker

I can't tell you how much I despise this cabinet proposal. Alone the fact that the NPP still has the intention to form a cabinet even when their party made large loses. It’s Disgusting for a Democratic Nation like Hutori. It shows that the citizens no longer want an NPP government. The NPP lost the parliamentary elections and has to leave the government immediately.
But what should we expect from a party that only thinks about power.

Also, how can you call this cabinet a "unity cabinet" where the right wing parties aren’t included? You don’t you want the right-wing parties to get involved, do you? Are we too conservative, too economically liberal? Or is it just the fact that we are REALLY interested in leading the country into a better future. In truth, your party only wants to continue the left course of the NPP, although the NPP has lost the Parliamentary election. I know the NPP still won the presidency, but that doesn't matter here.

However, we believe the NPP should not run the cabinet and there should be genuine unity government. But since this is not the case, we will nay this ridiculous prosposal.

Michael Howard
Party President of the League

Date18:59:16, October 15, 2022 CET
FromNational Progress Party
ToDebating the Unity Cabinet
MessageMr. Speaker,

The fact that my party has lost seat during this election is irrelevant. All parties within the National Senate have a right to be part of a government coalition, no matter the gain or lost during the election. There are over 10 millions hutorian who have voted for the NPP, does the president of League believe these 10 millions should be barred from participating in our democracy?

The reason why we have not included League in the Unionist Front in this cabinet is not because they are right-wing, its because they are dangerous reactionary extremist. There is a major difference. We are okay with working with right wing parties like the right-wing faction of the PP, the MPH or the LDU. But, the UF and League have a long record of proposing absolutely disgusting and utterly unacceptable bills. To put it mildly;

Someone who believes in racial segregation should not be part of the national cabinet.

Someone who believes in tying our law to religious code should not be part of the National Cabinet.

Someone who believes in outlawing homosexuality should not be part of the National Cabinet

Someone who believes in outlawing immigration should not be part of the National Cabinet

Someone who believes in outlawing secular education should not be part of the National Cabinet

Someone who believes in removing equality between man and women should not be part of the National Cabinet

The UF and League have proven, times and times again, that they are unfit to govern over anything.

Contrary to what the president of League said, the Presidential election is relevant. Nearly 64% voted for a President from the NPP. Clearly, it shows that the population would rather have a NPP lead government rather than one of far-right extremist. Doesn't that democracy matter for the League?

-Sarah Chamber
Prime Minister of Hutori
Senator for Saint Anslem Jonquerie

Date19:50:19, October 15, 2022 CET
From Liberal Party of Hutori
ToDebating the Unity Cabinet
MessageMr. Speaker

The League profess to support a Monarchy, so they must also support tradition and precedent. Hutorian precedent is clear: under the Republican model of Government the President is free to create a Cabinet as they see fit. If they can not, they need to find a different formula unless the law has changed. I know Mr. President, that a Constitional Amendment is before the the Senate allowing all Parties to create a Coalition Cabinet, and that is fine. My suggestion, Mr. Speaker, is to allow the NPP to attempt to form government, and should they be able to govern... if not the new law will pass and the League or anyone else will be able to attempt to form government.

We must allow Parliamentary Procedure to take it's due course.

Henry Woodbury
Leader of the Monarchist Party of Hutori
Senator for Acton Groomsbridge

Date21:15:33, October 15, 2022 CET
FromUnionist Front (⚔️)
ToDebating the Unity Cabinet
MessageMr. Speaker,

The MPH is the last party in this chamber to speak about tradition.

This party, refused to support the Monarchist HOS ticket in grounds of "we don't want to recognize the Republic by participating", and then went on an endorsed the Republican NPP ticket. A Monarchist Party in name only.

Anyways, this bill won't pass, but it is merely the last attempt by the Regime to cling to power. Let them. The barking of dogs never but annoyed the Lion.

The amendment will be passed and a new government formed.

Tom Thomas
UF

Date21:31:47, October 15, 2022 CET
FromUnionist Front (⚔️)
ToDebating the Unity Cabinet
MessageMr. Speaker,

With regards to the NPP however:

The Regime that refused to hold early elections, and disregard the will of 20 million Hutori's, has no place in Hutori. Cabinet or Opposition.

UF

Date21:49:35, October 15, 2022 CET
FromLeague
ToDebating the Unity Cabinet
MessageMr. Speaker,

First of all I would like to thank the MPH and the UF for their, more or less, supportive words. But let's get back on topic.

It's true that it doesn't exactly matter if someone won or lost votes, but it does matter if you're still strong enough to form a government. Every party has the right to be part of the government if they want to, but what matters to me is the composition of a government. That the NPP would like to be third at the top of the government is pretty stupid.

However, their justifications for not letting us into their government are very weak. That we would be extremists is not true. As I said before, we are very conservative and very committed to our values. Something the NPP doesn't know.

To get to your argument for the presidency. I didn't mean that the presidency doesn't matter at all, but what good is the presidency for the NPP if it doesn't have a majority in parliament. The only reason the NPP still has the presidency is because we didn't nominate a candidate ourselves. Otherwise you would have lost this too. Actually, I am of the opinion that the presidential election should be checked for electoral fraud.

I will not listen to any more stupid statements from the NPP. I have that, the League, the UF and all other parties don't need it.

Michael Howard
President of the League

Date22:15:11, October 15, 2022 CET
FromNational Progress Party
ToDebating the Unity Cabinet
MessageMr. Speaker,

What kind of statesman use personal insult as a mean of argumentation? The UF called us dogs and League called us stupid twice. The far-right extremist of this Senate once again proved that they are unfit to govern. We will not dignify any of this with a response.

Although I find the justification of the League quite humorous.

''The only reason you won the Presidency is because we didn't compete''

Yeah, right.

-Sarah Chamber
Prime Minister of Hutori
Senator for Saint Anslem Jonquerie

Date22:26:59, October 15, 2022 CET
FromLeague
ToDebating the Unity Cabinet
MessageMr. Speaker,

You leave me no choice but to tell the truth. That your party is not a party of the good people. To put it politely. How do you know if we're unfit to govern? Do you know how we would lead Hutori? Do you really think we wouldn't compromise? You think anything conservative is bad, don't you?

Besides, my reasoning wasn't humorous at all, but just believe what you think. I'm telling you today that your party won't hold the presidency for a long time anymore.

Now please, stop calling us right-wing extremists. Or should I call you a left extremist? You can call us extremists if you have a justification for it.

Michael Howard
President of the League

Date01:59:45, October 16, 2022 CET
FromUnionist Front (⚔️)
ToDebating the Unity Cabinet
MessageMr. Speaker,

Our argumentation was not name calling. It was stating facts:

The MPH, a self-proclaimed Monarchist Party, supported the most Republican candidate for HoS. This despite claiming to "not want to legitimize the Republic". That's called lying at best, hypocrisy in reality.

The NPP, meanwhile, lead a Regime that refused to call early elections, when 2/5 of the parties in the previous elections were dissolved. 20 Million votes were thrown into the trash can. They formed a government, whose agenda was "managing the nation". That's called a technocratic government at best, a power - hungry regime in reality.

Also, our saying about "The barking of dogs never but annoyed the Lion", never identified the NPP as the dogs. Glad that they assigned themselves to that role.

Anyways, call us extremists. Call us radical.

Enjoy that you won the election because of the support of the Mediocre Party of Hypocrites.

As we said before:

The amendment will pass
Democracy will be restored
And a government formed.

Only the salt cry when salt is thrown at their wounds.

Tom Thomas
UF

Date11:17:21, October 16, 2022 CET
FromPeople's Party of Hutori
ToDebating the Unity Cabinet
MessageMr. Speaker,

We want a clear path towards Monarchism. Without this path we can not accept to join this government.

Elisabeth Milhouse
Leader of the People's Party of Hutori CR Faction.

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Voting

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Total Seats: 129

no
   

Total Seats: 122

abstain
  

Total Seats: 54


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