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Bill: National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Liberal Alliance
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2072
Description[?]:
| We propose this gret patriotic song as Telamon's national anthem. NB: these are the original lyrics, if anyone can come up with a workable alternative, then the reference to God inthe last 2 lines can be removed if that is the consensus. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The lyrics of the national anthem.
Old value:: None
Current:
| Skjöld: Ég tilheyri þér, Í hjarta eru þínir. Hvar Tælmensku dætur blómstra, Hvar Tælmensku synir syngja, Leyfðu okkur að dansa hamingjusamlega, Í okkar Tælmörk! Og þetta er að fallega lands, Við Tælmensku land, heimili mitt, Við Tælmensku land, heimili mitt. Ekki gráta kæru móður Tælmörk, Hækka höfuðið stoltur hár, Tælmörk er frjáls Frjáls til að lifa! Land fjöll, land með straum. Land fields, land hinna frjálsu. Fjallið, vale – fara hvert sem hann vildi, Sorg og sorg öll sömu – Undir sjó af blóði, Á meðan yfir sjó á flame. Þú ert uppi á minningar frábær gamla daga, Þegar heiður að því þegar nafn þitt flaug yfir Terra, Ég veit að þú ert og mun eftir það sem þú varst. Luthorian: I belong to you In my heart is yours. Where Telamonic daughters bloom, Where Telamonic sons sing, let us dance happily, In our Telamon! And this is to a beautiful country, By Telamon land, my home, By Telamon land, my home. Don't cry dear mother Telamon, Raise your head proud high, Telamon is free Free to live! Country mountains, country with a stream. Land fields, land of the free. The mountain, vale – go wherever he wanted, Sorrow and sorrow all the same – Under a sea of blood, Meanwhile over sea on flame. You are reminiscing about the great old days, Already honored when your name flew over Terra, I know you are and will remember what you were. |
Proposed:
| Land of Hope and Glory, Mother of the Free, How shall we extol thee, who are born of thee? Wider still and wider shall thy bounds be set; G-d, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet. G-d, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet. |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:04:45, June 21, 2005 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | Unfortunatly though the line breaks don't seem to work!!! |
| Date | 20:06:03, June 21, 2005 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | If because of that peopl want something shorter, we could go with only the first line - Land of Hope and Glory, Mother of the Free. Though that seems rather to like a motto |
| Date | 20:43:11, June 21, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party of Telamon | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | Poifect. |
| Date | 20:46:47, June 21, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party of Telamon | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | Poifect. |
| Date | 00:05:00, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Telamon National Party | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | I love the idea of this being our national anthem. |
| Date | 05:58:47, June 22, 2005 CET | From |  Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | I already had a thing on this. And second I dont like that song. |
| Date | 05:59:51, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| Date | 06:00:35, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | I WONT ACCEPT ANYTHING WITH THE WORD "GOD" IN IT!!! SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!!!! |
| Date | 08:42:37, June 22, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | Now, i dont like this song BUT It metions god, so i might vote yes... |
| Date | 19:41:43, June 22, 2005 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | Independents: Firstly I did say that if the consensus is that the reference to G-d should be removed and someone can propose a workable alternative, then I'm happy with that, it just happens to be part of the original lyrics. Secondly, whilst I agree with you that Church and State should be seperate, I don't think that this really offends in any major way - I'm hapy with it as it is, but that could be just because I like the song!!! |
| Date | 09:22:47, June 23, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | there is no way that we replace the word god |
| Date | 06:05:15, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | I AS AN ATHEIST AM VERY OFFENDED BY THE MENTIONING OF GOD IN THE ANTHEM!!!! WE ARE NOT SECOND CLASS CITIZENS!!!! |
| Date | 20:10:47, June 24, 2005 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | So presumably Independents, whenever your President says God bless America at the end of his speeches etc. ,that also offends you? |
| Date | 20:52:14, June 24, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | YES! I HATE GEORGE BUSH!!! |
| Date | 05:52:25, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | Im sorry retard, but theres nothing wrong with the word god |
| Date | 20:41:57, June 25, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the National Anthem (Land of Hope and Glory) Act |
| Message | If you really think that then you just dont understand. Putting in "God" makes Atheists feel like second class citizens. Its like saying if you dont believe in it, you are not a real citizen. And this is the truth in all seriousness. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 166 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 27 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 57 |
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