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Bill: Military aid to the police
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Conservative
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2250
Description[?]:
| Just a minor amendment to make it legal for the military intervene or assist the police in major emergencies. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place and the military is not allowed to play any part in it.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:39:41, June 18, 2006 CET | From |  Liberal Conservative | To | Debating the Military aid to the police |
| Message | This bill is only designed make a minor amendment to the current law to take into account the possibility of major emergencies and civil unrest that go beyond the ability of the police. This is not a route to military control over the population. |
| Date | 10:05:26, June 20, 2006 CET | From | Zapatista Freedom Party | To | Debating the Military aid to the police |
| Message | This we could support, but like others we are open to counter arguments. |
| Date | 13:10:37, June 20, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Military aid to the police |
| Message | We are tentatively in favour. |
| Date | 14:52:29, June 20, 2006 CET | From | Ikradonian Faith Party | To | Debating the Military aid to the police |
| Message | We approve. |
| Date | 05:40:58, June 21, 2006 CET | From | Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi | To | Debating the Military aid to the police |
| Message | The IPC is interested in seeing what the NDP and FFP will say on this bill, but we could see ourselves supporting if there is no argument made against. |
| Date | 14:18:36, June 21, 2006 CET | From | Lyika ati Isọdọtun | To | Debating the Military aid to the police |
| Message | We have opposed this measure in the past and will continue to do so. Military units are not trained in emergency response, and they would contribute nothing to such efforts. We prefer to maintain a strict demarcation in the duties of the military, so as to allow for no ambiguity and no possibility whatsoever for martial law. |
| Date | 20:06:07, June 25, 2006 CET | From | Liberal Conservative | To | Debating the Military aid to the police |
| Message | I can understand the fear of martial law and accept such criticism, however I would be in favour of suggesting that the military should be trained for such emergencies in order to make this new system work. This is a 'just in case' measure designed to ensure that the police are never overwhelmed in the event of mass civil unrest. |
| Date | 04:56:51, June 27, 2006 CET | From | Lyika ati Isọdọtun | To | Debating the Military aid to the police |
| Message | We are somewhat unsettled by the term "mass civil unrest." To what do you refer? |
| Date | 17:06:38, July 05, 2006 CET | From | Liberal Conservative | To | Debating the Military aid to the police |
| Message | It was simply an example, such as the riots in France. These things can happen. I was really trying to emphasise the fact that by allowing the military to give assistance in times of emergency that it allows the use of a massive amount of man power, all of whom are trained to deal with high pressure dangerous situations e.g terrorist attacks, natural disasters etc. (I accept that they currently do not have the specific training for these situations but they should be trained to cope with anything.) |
| Date | 20:31:33, July 05, 2006 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the Military aid to the police |
| Message | The riots in France were due to a massive buildup of racial and socioeconomic tension, and with Chirac's policies, France is lucky that the riots happened when they did instead of having the emotions that fed them festering and growing in the present environment, only to explode with even greater force in due time. It is my guess that everyone can determine our position on this issue, and we will refrain from making a spectacle and arguing the point incessantly. Our philosophy is this: the military has no place doing the job of the police, and it is a breach of both good governance and human rights to call the armed forces into civil disputes. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 185 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 324 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 90 |
| Random fact: "Kubrk" is a Jelbic word that has the colloquial meaning "old man" or "geezer". |
| Random quote: "The best political weapon is the weapon of terror. Cruelty commands respect. Men may hate us, but we don't ask for their love, only for their fear." - Heinrich Himmler |